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#7115907 - 03/19/18 07:14 AM Elk in Big Bend
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I took last week off to go visit Big Bend and this would be my 2nd time. My first day out I decided to get off the beat'n path and explore. As soon as I did that I ran into a group of elk (2 cows, 1 young bull) and was so surprised that I forgot to grab my phone and take a picture. But it got me to thinking that I thought you could shoot an elk during a mule deer hunt in Big Bend as an exotic? So I researched just now but I didn't see anything. My buddy also saw a mountain lion on day 3 and we were way back in off any roads or trails looking at fossils. Nice place and I look forward to going back.

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#7115967 - 03/19/18 08:12 AM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Cherokee Mingan]
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You cannot shoot any species in the park without being drawn for a designated hunt of that species.

Elk are considered an exotic and only require land owner permission and access with a hunting license.
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#7116900 - 03/19/18 09:08 PM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Cherokee Mingan]
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You see them at Big Bend National Park or State Park. If itís the state park that hunt is by drawing. If itís the National Park.....Hunting is off limits.

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#7117121 - 03/20/18 07:30 AM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Cherokee Mingan]
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I saw them on the National Park.


Edited by Cherokee Mingan (03/20/18 07:30 AM)

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#7117639 - 03/20/18 01:41 PM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Cherokee Mingan]
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If only we could hunt the 1million acres of National Park in Texas...

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#7117863 - 03/20/18 04:50 PM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Cherokee Mingan]
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Yep that would figure out to be 1 hunter per 10 acres... pretty scary thought.
How many elk would be left on public land if they allowed anyone who had a hunting license open access.
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#7117954 - 03/20/18 06:31 PM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
Yep that would figure out to be 1 hunter per 10 acres... pretty scary thought.
How many elk would be left on public land if they allowed anyone who had a hunting license open access.



Really, you think utilization would be that high? That would be cool if it was, the other million acres of Texas Public Fed Land thatís open to hunting doesnít have 1 hunter per 10 acres???

States manage wildlife and exotics, not the Fed except NP, NM and NWAís. The state of Texas already administrators several areas with exotics and game animals for sustainable harvest, I donít for see an issue here. We already have specific state cow elk hunts, , opportunity bull elk hunts, auadad, nilgi, Axis etc . No reason we canít add 1,000,000 acres to state draw hunts for deer, elk, java, quail, and hopefully bear some day.

I may be wrong but pretty sure thatís what Texas and the other 49 states do when they want to limit harvest for sustainablilty.

We need hunting opportunities for everyone especially or youth.







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#7118025 - 03/20/18 08:03 PM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
You cannot shoot any species in the park without being drawn for a designated hunt of that species.

Elk are considered an exotic and only require land owner permission and access with a hunting license.
I once applied for a mule deer hunt in which elk were an option; that hunt had elk or exotics as within the permitted game.

But those drawn hunters may be forced/asked to first shoot their deer and then hunt the extra game, as I was on my MD doe hunt in Palo Duro Canyon a few years ago.

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#7118035 - 03/20/18 08:13 PM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: chital_shikari]
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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
You cannot shoot any species in the park without being drawn for a designated hunt of that species.

Elk are considered an exotic and only require land owner permission and access with a hunting license.
I once applied for a mule deer hunt in which elk were an option; that hunt had elk or exotics as within the permitted game.

But those drawn hunters may be forced/asked to first shoot their deer and then hunt the extra game, as I was on my MD doe hunt in Palo Duro Canyon a few years ago.


They can set any rules for what ever allocation they deem appropriate, exotics just mean itís not a tag association on your license itís more of a permitted. If they say only 1 cow elk, itís one cow elk. They say 1 ram aoudad itís one ram aoudad, etc








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#7118339 - 03/21/18 07:40 AM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Cherokee Mingan]
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Kill them all bolt
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#7118496 - 03/21/18 09:31 AM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Kill them all bolt


I think we could break world records if our elk didnít have to compete against those weak hearted mulies.

smile ani

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#7118510 - 03/21/18 09:39 AM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Kill them all bolt


I think we could break exotic world records if our elk didnít have to compete against those weak hearted mulies.

smile ani

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#7118576 - 03/21/18 10:21 AM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown

Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Kill them all bolt


I think we could break exotic world records if our elk didnít have to compete against those weak hearted mulies.

smile ani

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Well played, unless they get legislated into being a game animal again smile

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#7118611 - 03/21/18 10:56 AM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: Cherokee Mingan]
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I guess I misunderstood I thought you meant just open up to public hunting and since Elk have no regs you could shoot them like feral hogs.


Edited by DStroud (03/21/18 10:56 AM)
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#7118706 - 03/21/18 12:34 PM Re: Elk in Big Bend [Re: DStroud]
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Originally Posted By: DStroud
I guess I misunderstood I thought you meant just open up to public hunting and since Elk have no regs you could shoot them like feral hogs.


up hunting the desert is so unique, everyone needs to do it atleast once.

Hunting Sand Dunes for gaint Whitetails on PINS would also be really cool also, 100k acres of really cool unique habitat, and scenery

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