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Why even bother to reload
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03/09/18 11:17 PM
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Buzzsaw
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and not have a Chronograph ???????
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7106499
03/09/18 11:25 PM
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Judd
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You don't need one...the paper will tell you where your nodes are and you can figure out your velocity by working dope backwards. Come on old man, you know how this works. For the record...I do have one but I wouldn't let not having one keep me from reloading and optimizing the results of a barrel.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7106500
03/09/18 11:25 PM
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J.G.
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Because I have targets every hundred to 800.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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03/09/18 11:47 PM
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J.G.
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Last week, I helped a customer tweak his loading routine. We found a load, and then ran it all the way down the range. I didn't chronograph one shot. I played with the MV in the calculator, based on DOPE to 800 yards, and came up with 2610 fps MV. Today, he told me his Lab Radar clocked in at 2611 fps.
Just sayin.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7106525
03/09/18 11:58 PM
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RiverRider
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A guy can get by without having one, but it sure is nice to have a good idea what velocity you're running when playing with something new. I don't like "finding pressure" by feeling my way blindly.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Why even bother to reload
[Re: RiverRider]
#7106550
03/10/18 12:34 AM
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Jgraider
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A guy can get by without having one, but it sure is nice to have a good idea what velocity you're running when playing with something new. I don't like "finding pressure" by feeling my way blindly. Amen. Makes zero sense to me to work up loads without one.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
[Re: Buzzsaw]
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03/10/18 01:01 AM
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Buzzsaw
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well, I'm glad I'm just normal and not at the level of "some"
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/10/18 02:00 AM
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Tactical Cowboy
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I find the load that my gun likes, and then chrono to help figure drops and such... unless I’m loading for a competition pistol and want to achieve the minimum velocity required to make power factor.
The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
[Re: RiverRider]
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03/10/18 02:32 AM
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TackDriver
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A guy can get by without having one, but it sure is nice to have a good idea what velocity you're running when playing with something new. I don't like "finding pressure" by feeling my way blindly. I like to do load developments as well with one and checking ES and SD while doing it @ 200.
Last edited by TackDriver; 03/10/18 02:33 AM.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7107076
03/10/18 05:52 PM
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PappyG1
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I've killed hundreds of hogs with ammo that's never seen a chronograph. Worked just fine.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/10/18 06:00 PM
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kmon11
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Have loaded and shot lots of loads that were never run across a Chronograph. Loaded for over 20 years before I got my first one.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 01:26 PM
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Buzzsaw
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Yep, not necessary for hog killin Chad, sell your Labradar, I guess you don't need it after all.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 02:11 PM
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redchevy
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Ive been loading since I was in middle school and I turned 32 today. I still don't have a chronograph.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 02:20 PM
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Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself!
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7108724
03/12/18 02:23 PM
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kmon11
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Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself!
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 02:30 PM
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redchevy
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Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself! Thanks, who knows maybe ill get one for my b-day!
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 02:46 PM
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RLoving1
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I've killed hundreds of hogs with ammo that's never seen a chronograph. Worked just fine. Well according to some folks you have to run out there and hit the hogs with the chrono not the bullet. I reload, if they group good at 100 and I can hold it together at 200 then I'm good to go hunting! Dead critters don't care about speed of bullet or cost of gun/scope. I like reloading for entertainment myself
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 02:47 PM
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J.G.
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Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself! +1
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 08:56 PM
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Ranch Dog
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Because I like reloading and shooting toys, duh! I have three and don't think anything of setting one downrange in front of a target to collect the data there as well. I did buy a target camera to be able to read it between the shots.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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03/12/18 09:15 PM
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spg
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Momma said factory ammo is like a box of chocolate, you never know whacha gonna get.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7109181
03/12/18 09:39 PM
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J.G.
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Momma said factory ammo is like a box of chocolate, you never know whacha gonna get. ^^That's right!
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7109182
03/12/18 09:40 PM
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crumrw
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One of the reasons I reload is because it makes it too much work to figure out how much money I'm ACTUALLY blowing on ammo. If I buy ammo off the shelf, the price is right there on the side box and I can't ignore it.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7109227
03/12/18 10:28 PM
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J.G.
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One of the reasons I reload is because it makes it too much work to figure out how much money I'm ACTUALLY blowing on ammo. If I buy ammo off the shelf, the price is right there on the side box and I can't ignore it. No telling how much money I have tied up in loading equipment. I paid for it long ago, and now ammo only has the cost of components. I don't count the time. Think about a Hornady Match 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge. It is $1.20 to $1.50 per round. On once fired brass (now free), a loaded round costs $0.45
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7109522
03/13/18 03:24 AM
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Zeebob
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Nope you don't have to have a chronograph to reload...but they sure can be enlightening! If you use milsurp pull down powder or develop loads for wild cat cartridges they are a must, at least for me!
Reloading manuals are a guide, but if you have a chrony you can track your velocity and insure that you don't get too far over rhe maximum. I have had rifles that reached or exceeded maximum velocities long before I reached the max listed load in the manual. Sure, you can see pressure signs, but not always...
For many years I reloaded without a chronograph...got my first one 25 yrs ago. Wouldn't be without one now, it just makes my life easier. A very small investment considering the amount of information you can glean from tracking velocity as you develop your loads.
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Re: Why even bother to reload
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#7109543
03/13/18 04:09 AM
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DStroud
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Wow I Have a chronograph that is older than 32 years. I would have to dig thru some boxes to find it though. Had to set it up with 5 Ft spacing what a pain it was. When I got it was when I learned how inflated factory ammo speeds were.
"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."
Jack O'Connor 1963
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