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Why even bother to reload #7106489 03/09/18 11:17 PM
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and not have a Chronograph ??????? confused2


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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7106499 03/09/18 11:25 PM
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You don't need one...the paper will tell you where your nodes are and you can figure out your velocity by working dope backwards.

Come on old man, you know how this works. For the record...I do have one but I wouldn't let not having one keep me from reloading and optimizing the results of a barrel. wink


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Because I have targets every hundred to 800. grin


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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7106517 03/09/18 11:47 PM
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Last week, I helped a customer tweak his loading routine. We found a load, and then ran it all the way down the range. I didn't chronograph one shot. I played with the MV in the calculator, based on DOPE to 800 yards, and came up with 2610 fps MV. Today, he told me his Lab Radar clocked in at 2611 fps.

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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7106525 03/09/18 11:58 PM
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A guy can get by without having one, but it sure is nice to have a good idea what velocity you're running when playing with something new. I don't like "finding pressure" by feeling my way blindly.


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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
A guy can get by without having one, but it sure is nice to have a good idea what velocity you're running when playing with something new. I don't like "finding pressure" by feeling my way blindly.


Amen. Makes zero sense to me to work up loads without one.

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well, I'm glad I'm just normal and not at the level of "some"


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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7106625 03/10/18 02:00 AM
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I find the load that my gun likes, and then chrono to help figure drops and such... unless I’m loading for a competition pistol and want to achieve the minimum velocity required to make power factor.


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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
A guy can get by without having one, but it sure is nice to have a good idea what velocity you're running when playing with something new. I don't like "finding pressure" by feeling my way blindly.


I like to do load developments as well with one and checking ES and SD while doing it @ 200.

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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7107076 03/10/18 05:52 PM
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I've killed hundreds of hogs with ammo that's never seen a chronograph. Worked just fine.

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Have loaded and shot lots of loads that were never run across a Chronograph. Loaded for over 20 years before I got my first one.


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Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Yep, not necessary for hog killin



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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7108700 03/12/18 02:11 PM
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Ive been loading since I was in middle school and I turned 32 today. I still don't have a chronograph.


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Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself!
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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: RiverRider] #7108724 03/12/18 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself!
happybday


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Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself!
happybday


Thanks, who knows maybe ill get one for my b-day!


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Originally Posted By: PappyG1
I've killed hundreds of hogs with ammo that's never seen a chronograph. Worked just fine.


Well according to some folks you have to run out there and hit the hogs with the chrono not the bullet. I reload, if they group good at 100 and I can hold it together at 200 then I'm good to go hunting! Dead critters don't care about speed of bullet or cost of gun/scope. I like reloading for entertainment myself


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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: kmon11] #7108749 03/12/18 02:47 PM
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Happy birthday, redchevy. Get a chronograph as a present for yourself!
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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7109140 03/12/18 08:56 PM
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Because I like reloading and shooting toys, duh! I have three and don't think anything of setting one downrange in front of a target to collect the data there as well. I did buy a target camera to be able to read it between the shots.


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Momma said factory ammo is like a box of chocolate, you never know whacha gonna get.

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Originally Posted By: spg
Momma said factory ammo is like a box of chocolate, you never know whacha gonna get.


^^That's right!


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Re: Why even bother to reload [Re: Buzzsaw] #7109182 03/12/18 09:40 PM
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One of the reasons I reload is because it makes it too much work to figure out how much money I'm ACTUALLY blowing on ammo. If I buy ammo off the shelf, the price is right there on the side box and I can't ignore it. rifle

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One of the reasons I reload is because it makes it too much work to figure out how much money I'm ACTUALLY blowing on ammo. If I buy ammo off the shelf, the price is right there on the side box and I can't ignore it. rifle


No telling how much money I have tied up in loading equipment. I paid for it long ago, and now ammo only has the cost of components. I don't count the time. Think about a Hornady Match 6.5 Creedmoor cartridge. It is $1.20 to $1.50 per round. On once fired brass (now free), a loaded round costs $0.45


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Nope you don't have to have a chronograph to reload...but they sure can be enlightening! If you use milsurp pull down powder or develop loads for wild cat cartridges they are a must, at least for me!

Reloading manuals are a guide, but if you have a chrony you can track your velocity and insure that you don't get too far over rhe maximum. I have had rifles that reached or exceeded maximum velocities long before I reached the max listed load in the manual. Sure, you can see pressure signs, but not always...

For many years I reloaded without a chronograph...got my first one 25 yrs ago. Wouldn't be without one now, it just makes my life easier. A very small investment considering the amount of information you can glean from tracking velocity as you develop your loads.

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Wow I Have a chronograph that is older than 32 years. I would have to dig thru some boxes to find it though.
Had to set it up with 5 Ft spacing what a pain it was. When I got it was when I learned how inflated factory ammo speeds were.


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