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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7105841 03/09/18 11:57 AM
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Don’t communicate on the phone, only email or text

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Originally Posted By: Ramball36
Don’t communicate on the phone, only email or text


This!

He called you fully aware if he emailed or texted it would be documented and used against him. This guy is upset it didn't sell for more and wants more out of it. Pursue action with GB.

Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: Earl] #7105973 03/09/18 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Earl
Most people here know I buy and sell on auction sites also. I ALWAYS start with a low opening bid and no reserve on the items I sell. This seller did the same, he made no mistake or error. He gambled as I do that the market will set the price. Usually it does - sometimes it doesn't. For me it was when I listed something like 20-25 new in package Steyr 30 and 40 round AUG mags thinking they would sell for $20-25 each. I listed them in one auction as opposed to individual auctions because I wanted less hassle and honestly was lazy. Sure enough all 20-25 factory Steyr mags sold for like $60 damn bucks....but I packaged them up and mailed them off like I was supposed to. Maybe not as much a loss as this fellow did but if you don't set reserves/high opening bids in order to ensure you get more activity on your listings - it's a chance you take.

Leave him negative feedback and if it were me - I'd post up his seller name everywhere for all the world to see what type of a person he is. I sold those mags for $60 because my word is my bond and my integrity is worth way more than a few dollars lost on any transaction.

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This. People assuming a “mistake” apparently don’t know his auctions work. Lots of them have no reserve and start low to encourage bidding. To assume the bidder should have assumed a “mistake” and/or was somehow taking advantage of the seller is just flat wrong.


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106003 03/09/18 02:31 PM
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I start all of my auctions at a penny with no reserve. It's a risky play that usually works. On occasion you have to take your medicine.


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106010 03/09/18 02:36 PM
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Probably the logical thing to do is to just do whatever you can through GunBroker and let it go. I wouldn’t worry about negative FB you can almost certainly avoid it and/or get it removed.

Personally, I would make a “project” out of him and he would rue the day he did that to me. Did it once with a taxidermist-very satisfying. It’s one of the best fringe benefits of a law degree.


Originally Posted by Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106052 03/09/18 03:03 PM
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I had someone, a first time seller, weasel out of a deal on GunAuction.com. He went radio silent after I sent him my money. To be honest, I was so relieved to get my money returned that I let the whole thing drop, the idea being "no blood, no foul". That said, I'd have given him negative feedback in a heartbeat under normal circumstances.


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: Cleric] #7106087 03/09/18 03:43 PM
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Please remember by listing an item you are legally committing to accept the high bid for the item. If you receive a bid above the minimum price you set, and a reserve price is not specified, you are legally obligated to complete the transaction.

Right at the very top. I would contact him, tell him he can take the $351 and send you the revolver, or you are going to start legal proceedings against him. Do all contact through email or USPS, and alert GB immediately.


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #7106108 03/09/18 03:59 PM
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Yep, it's on the seller. He's the one that screwed up, not you. I had the same thing happen when I won/bought this truck on eBay. It went for about $5000 less than market value and the seller got all butthurt. I was nice in my communications with him, but insisted he honor the contract. He grumbled and biotched about it, but he ended up with a cashier's check in his hand for the auction amount and I drove off in my truck with title in hand.



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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106403 03/09/18 09:25 PM
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The right thing to do is always obvious, and more obvious when somebody decides not to. He's obligated to sell to you, work the channels through gunbroker and leave honest feed back. He's the one that made the feedback negative by welching. Don't be afraid of negative consequences from being honest and telling the truth about the transaction. You'll sleep at night.


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #7106437 03/09/18 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks


Please remember by listing an item you are legally committing to accept the high bid for the item. If you receive a bid above the minimum price you set, and a reserve price is not specified, you are legally obligated to complete the transaction.

Right at the very top. I would contact him, tell him he can take the $351 and send you the revolver, or you are going to start legal proceedings against him. Do all contact through email or USPS, and alert GB immediately.


And keep copious notes! Document everything; every call, every email, every text message; and keep it all ready to show as exhibits.

Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106561 03/10/18 12:53 AM
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As others have said, I don't believe it was a mistake on his part. He just started it low to get bidding started earlier. That usually translates to a higher sale price (depending on the item), but sometimes it bites you. It has bitten me a couple of times but I honored the sale price because I knew the risk of not having a reserve price. I think he expected the bidding to go much higher and it didn't. That's not an honest mistake, that's learning a lesson. I would definitely report him to Gunbroker.


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106562 03/10/18 12:55 AM
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I don’t feel bad for anyone that plays the auction game and gets burned by their own mistake. They went into it hoping to make more than market value, and they failed.

Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106591 03/10/18 01:27 AM
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A lot of you who think they guy should be let off the hook must not be familiar with auctions. He had the option to set a reserve price, and decided not to. If he doesn’t set a reserve, he’s legally obligated to sell for whatever the final bid is. It would be different if he posted the gun for sale here, made a mistake on price and didn’t sell to the first person who said they would take it. Totally different things.

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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106597 03/10/18 01:37 AM
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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106655 03/10/18 02:34 AM
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It's frustrating. Collector's Firearms in Houston did something very similar to me. I won a near mint Colt Detective Special with factory hammer shroud in the original box for around $300. As soon as the auction is over they tell me they accidentally sold it in the store and forgot to stop the auction, but I could have a worn out Detective Special with almost no finish and no hammer shroud for the same as my winning bid amount.

Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106937 03/10/18 03:13 PM
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I once tried selling some golf clubs on eBay. There was about two minutes left and they were up to about 300 less than I wanted. So i used my wife’s account and won them for myself lol. Does this make me a pos?

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Originally Posted By: cbump
I once tried selling some golf clubs on eBay. There was about two minutes left and they were up to about 300 less than I wanted. So i used my wife’s account and won them for myself lol. Does this make me a pos?


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7106969 03/10/18 03:38 PM
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You might have gotten what you wanted, had you waited. My bidding technique was to wait until there were about 5 seconds left to submit my top dollar bid, and I'm pretty sure lots of bidders worked it that way.


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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: RiverRider] #7106979 03/10/18 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
You might have gotten what you wanted, had you waited. My bidding technique was to wait until there were about 5 seconds left to submit my top dollar bid, and I'm pretty sure lots of bidders worked it that way.

That's standard procedure for eBay but doesn't work on gunbroker.


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Originally Posted By: cbump
I once tried selling some golf clubs on eBay. There was about two minutes left and they were up to about 300 less than I wanted. So i used my wife’s account and won them for myself lol. Does this make me a pos?


roflmao did you give each other positive feedback for a smooth transaction?

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Re: Seller on Gunbroker refuses to honor winning bid. [Re: HankePanky] #7107022 03/10/18 04:37 PM
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You are s*** out of luck. Seller can do as seller pleases. All you can do is leave negative feedback, explaining the situation.

On the other hand, you can understand an accident.

You could complain to eBay to see if they will help.

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Originally Posted By: jdk1985
You are s*** out of luck. Seller can do as seller pleases. All you can do is leave negative feedback, explaining the situation.

On the other hand, you can understand an accident.

You could complain to eBay to see if they will help.


There’s zero % chance this was an accident. You must have never used an auction to buy or sell something. He chose to list the gun at “no reserve” which means whatever the bid is, he has to sell it for. That was his choice. Nobody starts an auction at the price they want to get. It would never sell. Nearly everybody starts an auction low. That was the choice of the seller. The seller made all of these decisions himself and because he’s a piece of [censored], he’s not sticking to the deal he CHOSE to make.


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Pursue it through GB, it was intentional. The pistol belongs to you. It isn't a police matter do not call the police, its not theft. Its a civil matter. Handle that accordingly.


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