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#7095493 - 02/27/18 09:46 PM 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle
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I have a long action that I am considering using for a 280 AI build. Whats everyones thoughts on the round itself? I have a couple of 7mm Rem Mags so I already have longer distance cartridges and I have a couple of 7mm-08's so I have a lighter 7mm. For water reason, theres something about the Ackley that draws me to it and Im not sure why. I am open to other caliber suggestions as this is kind of a niche round it seems. I just wanted to get you guys thoughts in regard to what you would build for a standard hunting rifle. I normally shoot deer and hogs but do occasionally shoot elk and other larger animals, though I have a 338wm for that.
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#7095532 - 02/27/18 10:25 PM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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With what you already have in 7mm's I'd look at doing something in a bigger or smaller caliber. IMO a 280 AI is almost a 7Rmg that uses 6-10 grains of powder less and runs same bullets only about 50-100fps +/- slower.

FWIW I'd go bigger in a 35 Whelen & could AI that'un for a little extra push...but having had a 9.3x62 IMO it is the perfect non mag step up with 250 gr bullets that'll about match a 338WMg's MV in that bullet weight, and go up to a tad slower 375 H&H's power in close to the same weight bullets, with the 286gr'er as the everyday great average do all bullet weight. Brass is easy, bullets are easy (Hornady & others) and someday I'll build one again as they are lots softer recoil that 338Wmgs & 375H&H's for sure.
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#7095604 - 02/28/18 12:38 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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The ackley shoulder just looks sexy. With that said I hold the 280ai in high regard but ever since getting a 7x57ai built its now a notch above the 280/280ai. Something about the history and the nostalgia just does it for me. My 7x57ai is also easy to load for and gives up very little to the 280ai up to 150's in my experience.
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#7095856 - 02/28/18 08:17 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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Great cartridge, but since you have 7mm above and below it, I think you might have fun with a 6.5X284
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#7095876 - 02/28/18 08:31 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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I had a 280AI for a few years, great round, if you handload or be willing to pay a lot for ammo..
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#7095981 - 02/28/18 09:27 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Great cartridge, but since you have 7mm above and below it, I think you might have fun with a 6.5X284



As great a cartridge as the .280 and .280 AI both are, i think JG is onto something here. Brass for 6.5-284 is available, too, so no AI fireforming would be needed.
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#7096018 - 02/28/18 09:48 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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Thanks guys, something to think about. I was thinking 280ai so that I can stay with the same bullets out of convenience. The 6.5-284 does seem interesting. I was also considering the 35 Whelen, but I have a 9.3x62 also, though I seldom take it out, its an awesome cartridge for sure.


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#7096027 - 02/28/18 09:57 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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Crash, 280AI is a formidable cartridge and one I like. You have 7mm pretty well bracketed with what you have. Frankly you could make either caliber work for your stated plans. With that said I say, go for it. Trying new calibers and Bullets is what we do. Getting the ones that intrigue us and putting them through their paces is how we figure out what our preferences are and why they can change. I say get it and have fun with it.
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#7096174 - 02/28/18 11:28 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Great cartridge, but since you have 7mm above and below it, I think you might have fun with a 6.5X284



As great a cartridge as the .280 and .280 AI both are, i think JG is onto something here. Brass for 6.5-284 is available, too, so no AI fireforming would be needed.



you can buy 280 AI brass

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#7096232 - 02/28/18 12:04 PM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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I know, but AFAIK only from Nosler.
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#7098526 - 03/02/18 07:51 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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It's always a fun dilemma deciding what to build next and I won't be much help! Had a .280 for years and it was very effective from varmint thru elk. I built a couple of 280AIs...they shot well but really didn't give me a significant improvement over the standard 280. Ended up selling both when I got tired of fire forming....

Now, I just built a standard .280 to replace the two 280AIs. With that and my 7x57s...I'm happy!

If you are toying with the idea of a 6.5-284, you really should think about the 6.5-06. You have a long action, and you can easily make 6.5-06 brass using 270 or 25-06 brass... The 6.5-06 is the ballistic twin to the 6.5-284. I've built a couple 6.5-06s and using 120 Sierra game kings or 130gr accubond it's like a death ray on deer and antelope!

Regardless, of your decision... 280, 280AI, 6.5-284 or 6.5-06 they all work great.

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#7098850 - 03/02/18 11:55 AM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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Hey Zee. Good to see you here. When you comin out to help kill off some piggies?
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#7098876 - 03/02/18 12:08 PM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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If you get a .280AI get a break on it unless it's heavy....ask me how I know..Rebarreling my Kimber..

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#7098906 - 03/02/18 12:27 PM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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My 280ai is my favorite rifle to shoot ó steel and hunting. 168 bergers at 2800+ are devastating on game. Hornady has also started making Precision Hunter ammo in 162 ELD-x if you donít handload.
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#7099104 - 03/02/18 03:04 PM Re: 280 AI or other for new bolt rifle [Re: crash700]
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I like the feedback that I have gotten, you guys are always great. I am still a few months out before I get it all together as I am slowly picking up the parts. I think that I may be set on a 280ai and will initially buy factory ammo and start reloading thereafter to get into some barnes TSX 140's to 160's for mulies and possibly elk. I have other calibers, but this one seems to be a good fit for most of the hunting that I currently do.
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