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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Texas Dan]
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02/24/18 01:02 AM
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Gee, Dan, nowhere on your list was the reason given that the shooter must be a murderer, POS, or azzhole as noted above as being the case. Ok. So please share your opinion on why you wouldn't consider someone that's an adult like this case an azzhole that shoots multiple times with a lethal weapon at anything they are not absolutely sure of? A case much like what you described actually occurred many years ago in Mississippi when a guy who was visiting his in-laws, shot and killed a MDWFP Game Warden. The guy had been reportedly night hunting behind his in-laws house when he heard noises in the brush being made by the officer who was trying to catch him. He reportedly fired several times into the brush in an attempt to scare off what he thought was an animal, only to hit the officer. The officer died at the scene and the shooter was later sentenced to 20 years and died in prison. I remember reading about the incident when my parents lived in Meridian, MS. The shooter was a 20-something and was night hunting on the day after Christmas from his father-in-laws box stand and food plot. He was from the New Orleans area and probably not familiar with the area or locals. Of course I could be wrong, but I seriously doubt he believed a game warden would be chasing through the dark in the woods behind his in-laws house at 10:30 at night. And truth be known, it may have been his FIL the officer was trying to catch. A very sad and tragic event for all involved. https://www.odmp.org/officer/154-lake-manager-hilton-h-ike-shoemake Sad, yes. I think 20 years was the least he should of served. At least there was serious consequences for his negligence. If you don't understand the responsibility of firing a lethal weapon you should never carry or fire one. No exceptions IMO.
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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02/24/18 03:55 AM
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Something doesn't add up here, perhaps it's addressed in the 6 pages of posts but I didn't see it. The original linked story mentions the Pator whas shot "several" times...that's more than 2. I could buy accidental if a person was maybe shot once, but 2-3 times or more? That's not negligent and that's not accidental.
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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02/24/18 07:16 AM
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Thank God I don't hunt around idiots. I would post what I really want but most won't like it.... Luckily only hunt 1000+ acre places... yes smaller places can be be hunted 100% safe but idiots exist everywhere so I said luckily. Not sure what idiot shoots at sound.
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Earl]
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02/24/18 07:23 AM
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Something doesn't add up here, perhaps it's addressed in the 6 pages of posts but I didn't see it. The original linked story mentions the Pator whas shot "several" times...that's more than 2. I could buy accidental if a person was maybe shot once, but 2-3 times or more? That's not negligent and that's not accidental. I agree Earl doesn't quite pass the smell test....
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Texasteach]
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02/25/18 01:54 PM
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Charlieb68
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Felony murder could likely be proven in this case if trespassing with a firearm is a felony in N.C., and the prosecutor can prove the shooter was trespassing.
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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02/25/18 04:16 PM
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Wow, I wonder if the DA knows anything about the law?
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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02/25/18 10:34 PM
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
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02/26/18 01:49 AM
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No one said the DA didn't know the law,but apparently lots of people in the posts above do not know the elements that constitute felony murder.
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
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02/26/18 09:37 AM
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Probably using a 6.5 creedmoor also.....
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Charlieb68]
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02/26/18 12:53 PM
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I stand corrected, in North Carolina, although premeditation is not required to meet the standards for felony murder, it does require the commission of a "dangerous" felony (firing into an occupied vehicle, burglary, larceny, child abuse, as well as a few others).
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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02/26/18 04:15 PM
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Put me in the camp of thinking there may be more to the story....
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
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02/26/18 05:51 PM
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Put me in the camp of thinking there may be more to the story.... Welcome back!
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
[Re: Double Naught Spy]
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03/01/18 04:57 AM
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I'm sad for the families involved and hopefully others will learn a valuable lesson from this tragedy. There is simply no excuse for not properly identifying the intended target before even attempting to take a shot.
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Re: Hunter Mistakes Another Hunter For A Coyote
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03/05/18 02:09 PM
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I was not apart of the situation there but there is a big difference in a person and coyote.... identify your target and your surroundings before you shoot. good point!
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