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Re: Group Size vs Optic [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #7088276 02/22/18 02:58 AM
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I'm here to learn, and pass on a little knowledge I've gleaned over the years. I have no idea why you feel like being a jerk about my success. I would ask how someone got there instead of making snide comments. Yes, I am a gifted shooter, but I know enough to know someone is always better/knows more.

You're not the end all be all when it comes to load development. I understand you might be defensive since you own a loading business, but don't think you have to treat folks bad in order to be respected.

Re: Group Size vs Optic [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #7088292 02/22/18 03:12 AM
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From wiki..
Benchrest shooters attempt to achieve the ultimate in rifle precision; records for single 910 metres (1,000 yd), 10 shot groups are as small as 76 millimetres (3 in), the 550 metres (600 yd) record for a single 5-shot group is 17.8 millimetres (0.699 in) (there are no 10-shot competitions at 600 yards), while 180 metres (200 yd) 10 shot groups are around 5.1 millimetres (0.2 in), and 91 metres (100 yd) 10 shot groups are around 2.5 millimetres (0.1 in). Five shot groups are significantly smaller.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10]


I think he is saying .1 groups at a 100 is benchrest level of shooting which is exceedingly difficult. Most br shooters have highly specialized set ups and the implication is that you are not set up for br

Are you saying you got .1 group once or that it shoots .1 frequently

Re: Group Size vs Optic [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks] #7088340 02/22/18 04:07 AM
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I'm using a match grade barrel, match trigger, good scope, and decades worth of experience. It's done it at least twice that I can recall. I think probably no more than 6 times though. I don't really sit around and group once I find a good load.

Just the other day someone posted a similar group. My other AR's are down in the .2 range. I've just been blessed with good barrels and good people to learn from.

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I have a conventional custom rifle in .280 which ONE TIME have me a 3-shot group measuring 0.18 inch. I'd rather that it never teased me like that. It IS an MOA rifle, though---pretty consistently.


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Re: Group Size vs Optic [Re: pertnear] #7090558 02/23/18 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: pertnear
I have a Leupold 6.5x20x40mm that I keep "loose" just for load development. I had on an AR last time. Looks funny but makes determining the accuracy level of a rifle & load easier to judge. Once I'm "dialed-in", the normal sites go on the rifle.


X2 but I use a vortex viper.


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