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#7079138 - 02/14/18 09:49 PM Jaguarundi questions
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What are the regulations on these cats? I have a friend who is infested with them on their ranch, they have already killed a couple of calves. I googled them and found reference to them being extinct in Texas, but the same Texas.gov publication says that they are endangered. Has anyone dealt with them.
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#7079159 - 02/14/18 09:58 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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What county is his ranch in? I can't imagine a 10-20 live weight cat killing any size calf.
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#7079161 - 02/14/18 09:59 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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#7079167 - 02/14/18 10:02 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
What county is his ranch in? I can't imagine a 10-20 live weight cat killing any size calf.


Exactly. A 20-pounder is a big Jaguarundi too. They average between 10 and 14 pounds. I doubt there's ever been a cow killed by a Jaguarundi in the history of Texas.
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#7079169 - 02/14/18 10:02 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: stxranchman]
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
What county is his ranch in? I can't imagine a 10-20 live weight cat killing any size calf.
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#7079177 - 02/14/18 10:07 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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I would rather not mention the county.

I basically blown away by the fact that they killed a calf because of their size. He showed me the carcass. I have also seen pictures of them chasing the calves. One can't, but we are talking 3-4 ganging up one these calves.

Everything I read suggests that they are only in two counties down by Brownsville. But he told me that the locals told him that the state introduced them to control the deer population.
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#7079182 - 02/14/18 10:12 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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Originally Posted By: David Maas
I would rather not mention the county.

I basically blown away by the fact that they killed a calf because of their size. He showed me the carcass. I have also seen pictures of them chasing the calves. One can't, but we are talking 3-4 ganging up one these calves.

Everything I read suggests that they are only in two counties down by Brownsville. But he told me that the locals told him that the state introduced them to control the deer population.

This sounds awfully fishy to me for the state to move a low population species that is that endangered to a new area. Where was the cow in all this chasing? I would have to see pics of them chasing a calf to see proof of the species.
Them or any predator eating on a dead carcass is believable. A pack of coyotes would seem more likely to be killing calves to me.
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#7079193 - 02/14/18 10:18 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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Not sure which 2 counties they are supposedly in but I've seen them in Refugio county.

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#7079200 - 02/14/18 10:22 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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I doubted the story after I googled it, I honestly didn't know that they were remotely close to north Texas, because I didn't find a single mention of a sighting this far north.

I am honestly looking for answers, not yanking anyone's chain.
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#7079210 - 02/14/18 10:24 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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TPWD states they are extinct in Texas. Shows last historic range in two counties.
https://tpwd.texas.gov/huntwild/wild/species/jag/
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#7079211 - 02/14/18 10:25 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: esnow74]
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Originally Posted By: esnow74
Not sure which 2 counties they are supposedly in but I've seen them in Refugio county.


Cameron and Willacy

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#7079221 - 02/14/18 10:29 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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Originally Posted By: David Maas
I doubted the story after I googled it, I honestly didn't know that they were remotely close to north Texas, because I didn't find a single mention of a sighting this far north.

I am honestly looking for answers, not yanking anyone's chain.

I have a friend in McCulloch County that swears he saw a cat of some type at an old camphouse he was cleaning up around for some lease hunters. Old time rancher who knows what a bobcat or mountain lion or feral house cat would look like also. What he described to me was not a bobcat or housecat either. I do not doubt that he saw a cat...just not sure what type of cat he saw though. All I could say is he saw a cat that was native to his county or escapee "pet" from somewhere close.
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#7079232 - 02/14/18 10:35 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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I don't know what she's seeing, but everything she says describes this cat. The pictures I saw look like a jaguarundi, but the head looks slightly off. She's up on the Red River.
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#7079239 - 02/14/18 10:40 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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Loan her some trail cams and get pics. If it is killing livestock regularly she should be able to put a few TC up on random trails, water troughs, kills, etc where the killing has been most frequent to get proof of what type of cat it is.
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#7079259 - 02/14/18 11:00 PM Re: Jaguarundi questions [Re: David Maas]
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My father ran a ranch just north of Raymonville in Willacy county in the early 80's. TPWD Game Biologist ran live traps for Jaguarundi. I only remember seeing one in a trap when we were riding the ranch. Left it alone and don't have any vivid memory of what the GB was trying to do after catching it. Never heard of one further north. Most people I've mentioned it to have never heard of a Jaguarundi. Interesting topic. Brought back a 35 year old memory.

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