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#7068217 - 02/06/18 12:58 PM FL sizing question
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I know, really??? while FL sizing my 6.5 Creedmoor brass. It takes allot of force to size them up and back down. I mean like trying to loosen a rusted on lug nut!!! Here is my process

1. tumble brass clean

2. Redding FL sizer NOT a bushing die. It does have the carbide sizer button, supposed to eliminate the need for inside neck lube.

3. Lube with Redding sizing wax or Imperial. I try to keep the wax on the case body only, do you guys coat the whole case?

4. Redding Big Boss II press.

5. when I run a lubed case up into the die it is pretty hard and feels like it almost is scratching the cases but doesn't show it. When I bring it back down there is allot of resistance coming back through the sizer button. Sometimes it feels like I'm gonna stick a case. I haven't used ONE SHOT in years, messy, hell, its all messy

6. I'm bumping shoulder back just so the bolt closes easily.

Sound normal?

Thought about sending the die back to Redding to see if it needs polishing. I clean the sizer after every 15-20 rounds or so to get left over lube off, etc. from what I can see, it looks fine confused2
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#7068228 - 02/06/18 01:02 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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It's the sizer button. Carbide or not I've found this typical.
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#7068236 - 02/06/18 01:05 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I use ONE SHOT and have never experienced what youre describing. I do get the top 2/3 of the case if not more and inside the neck. The only time I skip lube is on straight wall carbide die sizing. I should clean my dies more often than I do but truth is I may load several hundred rounds without cleaning the dies. Never an issue.

Did stick a case once turning 35 whelen into 338-06. No fun.

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#7068257 - 02/06/18 01:16 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Thanks guys, yea, its almost like I'm forming a new case. I'll put the
"stock" button back in and try One Shot.
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#7068275 - 02/06/18 01:28 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Better stay with the regular lube, rather than switch to the Hornady ďOne StickĒ. Remember that I warned you...

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#7068318 - 02/06/18 01:47 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: 603Country]
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Originally Posted By: 603Country
Better stay with the regular lube, rather than switch to the Hornady “One Stick”. Remember that I warned you...
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#7068358 - 02/06/18 02:14 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Lube is beneficial on the inside and outside of the neck, as well as the body of the case.

It should take some pressure, but on a 6.5 CM nothing particularly hard.

Even on a big case like a 338 LM, not very much pressure is required.

Use more lube.

Check runout on the neck before and after sizing. Should be 0.001" or less after sizing, otherwise something is wrong.
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#7068499 - 02/06/18 04:12 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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On my 7mm08 it is pretty smooth and easy but on my 300 win mag, sometimes it can be a real bugger. Just FYI
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#7068837 - 02/06/18 08:18 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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#7068852 - 02/06/18 08:27 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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DO NOT leave case lube inside the mouth, and then load a bullet!!!

It will throw off your pressures and drastically effect your speeds.
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#7069010 - 02/06/18 10:32 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Buzz,
try using these to adjust the die to set the shoulder back 0.0015Ē - 0.003Ē max.

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/101274...with-comparator

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#7069019 - 02/06/18 11:04 PM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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To answer your question, yes I lube the shoulder and neck as well as the body, but very lightly on the shoulder or you will get dimples.

I would partial FL resize instead of "full" FL resize just to extend case life. I doubt FL sizing would make sizing much harder though.
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#7069049 - 02/07/18 02:34 AM Re: FL sizing question [Re: GLC]
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Originally Posted By: GLC
On my 7mm08 it is pretty smooth and easy but on my 300 win mag, sometimes it can be a real bugger. Just FYI


I donít know if this is the case or not, but Iíll toss it out there as a possibility. I have limited experience hand loading, and Iíve always used the collet die, so I canít compare. I bet someone like Chad or JG could elaborate.

Thereís a collet die made by Innovative Technologies for resizing belted cases just above the belt. The idea behind it is that all resizing dies push brass towards the belt and never quite reach this area to size it, creating a bulge. The collet die resizes just this portion of the case to bring it back to proper dimensions and extend case life. It can also be slid on the case backwards to check if it even needs it or not. I can confirm that it does what it is supposed to do, but I couldnít say for sure that it is necessary or if that could have anything to do with your difficulty in sizing a belted case. Like I said, Iíve always used it, so I canít say for sure that itís actually beneficial. I do know that a lot of people have claimed that it has solved problems for them, but a lot of people reload belted cases many times without issue and without the collet die.
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#7069062 - 02/07/18 04:41 AM Re: FL sizing question [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
DO NOT leave case lube inside the mouth, and then load a bullet!!!

It will throw off your pressures and drastically effect your speeds.
Seemed like in another thread it was mentioned to tumble the brass again after sizing to remove lube inside the neck, if I remember correctly. Is that a reasonable approach?

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#7069096 - 02/07/18 06:17 AM Re: FL sizing question [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Yes.
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