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#7066503 - 02/05/18 08:54 AM Hogs are winning
Retired Sgt. Gilliam Offline
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I have killed many hogs without missing. Have killed them 300 yards and under to 30 yards. Always took pork home. But since I bought this sightmark photon have missed every shot. Back to the range for 3rd time. I just don't understand why. But whatever
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#7066510 - 02/05/18 09:03 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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Well how many have you missed with it? Is your scope loose?
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#7066522 - 02/05/18 09:09 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Aggieman775]
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Originally Posted By: Aggieman775
Well how many have you missed with it? Is your scope loose?
have missed 11
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#7066525 - 02/05/18 09:10 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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Scope is tight. Took it off and starting over. Checked everything
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#7066533 - 02/05/18 09:15 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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And when you go back to the range, what do you find?
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#7066542 - 02/05/18 09:21 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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How many of the misses were inside of 125 yards on a non moving target?

This would be the ideal shooting situation - I donít consider shots on running pigs ďmissesĒ

Anything past 125 yards is hard to do with a 4.5x fixed mag scope at night...

What previous scope or setup were you using and making all your shots?


Edited by Pig_Popper (02/05/18 09:23 AM)
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#7066546 - 02/05/18 09:22 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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Originally Posted By: Retired Sgt. Gilliam
Scope is tight. Took it off and starting over. Checked everything


Gotta be either something loose in the scope mounting system, or something wrong with the internals of the scope, Sarge. Since all you did was go from one optic option to another when the misses began occurring, I don't see how it could be either the firearm or the shooter.

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#7066549 - 02/05/18 09:23 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Double Naught Spy]
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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
And when you go back to the range, what do you find?
going back in about an hour. But the 2nd time I went it was on. Maybe I should go back to my old setup if I can't figure this out. Never missed hogs before. Maybe getting old. Haha
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#7066551 - 02/05/18 09:25 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Pig_Popper]
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Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
How many of the misses were inside of 125 yards on a non moving target?

This would be the ideal shooting situation - I donít consider shots on running pigs ďmissesĒ

Anything past 125 yards is hard to do with a 4.5x fixed mag scope at night...

What previous scope or setup were you using and making all your shots?
before I used my 3x9 scope with a green light or my DIY night vision setup.
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#7066552 - 02/05/18 09:25 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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Hey keep us posted on this I've been so interested in buying one of those sights. I don't own any black guns but was thinking about diving in. I always wondered how well they hold zero. Seems you hear lots of complaints on this issue.

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#7066555 - 02/05/18 09:27 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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I will get back on here later. Some shots are over 125. Some it to 300. I have never missed before with old setups
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#7066558 - 02/05/18 09:28 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Wacm]
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Originally Posted By: Wacm
Hey keep us posted on this I've been so interested in buying one of those sights. I don't own any black guns but was thinking about diving in. I always wondered how well they hold zero. Seems you hear lots of complaints on this issue.
so many people like them. I will let all know. Going to check the zero and hunt tonight also. Hogs are coming in every night
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#7066569 - 02/05/18 09:37 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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How do you know your missing them? Is there any possibility your hitting them just not in the vitals? I know you know they donít bleed much. How is your grouping when you go to the range? I had a .22 mag that wouldnít group worth a crap. I put different scope rings on it and it improved drastically.
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#7066570 - 02/05/18 09:38 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Retired Sgt. Gilliam]
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With the moon the way it was recently you just needed to get them in the open and you could see them on 3x with a 50mmobj with a 30mm tube fairly well.

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#7066585 - 02/05/18 09:46 AM Re: Hogs are winning [Re: Wacm]
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Originally Posted By: Wacm
Hey keep us posted on this I've been so interested in buying one of those sights. I don't own any black guns but was thinking about diving in. I always wondered how well they hold zero. Seems you hear lots of complaints on this issue.


Where are these complaints being discussed with regards to the PhotonXT ?

Iíve not heard or read the same.

It isnít to say that Sgt. Gilliam doesnít have an issue, scopes can malfunction, however the PhotonXT line has proven to be reliable and effective for some time.

Unless I ainít reading the same sources
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