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 Re: Problem ELDX 7mm08
[Re: GLC]
#7082700
02/17/18 09:01 PM
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TackDriver
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Here is a QL of the 7-08 and 162 ELD-X, hope the selection of powders helps narrow your search. Cartridge : 7 mm-08 Rem.
Bullet : .284, 162, Hornady ELD-X 2840 G7
Useable Case Capaci: 44.025 grain H2O = 2.858 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 2.800 inch = 71.12 mm
Barrel Length : 24.0 inch = 609.6 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 112 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
2 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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ReloadSwiss RS 60 103.7 44.2 2.86 2783 100.0 60000 8560 1.177 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-26 112.0 48.9 3.17 2777 99.4 55891 9572 1.210 ! Near Maximum !
Elcho 17 102.9 43.8 2.84 2765 100.0 60000 8515 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-17 102.9 43.8 2.84 2765 100.0 60000 8515 1.183 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 70 109.7 47.4 3.07 2759 98.2 60000 9200 1.181 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S365 110.7 44.7 2.90 2748 100.0 60000 8119 1.190 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-16 110.4 43.6 2.83 2747 100.0 60000 8406 1.192 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ReloadSwiss RS 62 106.9 45.5 2.95 2742 99.7 60000 8590 1.198 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 518 108.6 45.5 2.95 2727 98.6 60000 8707 1.193 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
PB Clermont PCL 511 104.3 45.1 2.92 2727 98.8 60000 8667 1.194 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma MRP 112.0 47.4 3.07 2726 97.2 55272 9375 1.223 ! Near Maximum !
Ramshot Hunter 107.7 45.2 2.93 2725 98.8 60000 8654 1.194 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester 760 101.7 43.7 2.83 2716 98.2 60000 8603 1.199 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H414 101.7 43.7 2.83 2716 98.2 60000 8603 1.199 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Norma URP 107.3 43.1 2.79 2712 99.7 60000 8344 1.201 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP19 ~approximation 107.3 43.1 2.79 2711 99.7 60000 8341 1.202 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N550 104.2 43.2 2.80 2711 99.7 60000 8456 1.207 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4350 106.8 43.3 2.81 2711 99.7 60000 8322 1.215 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-19 112.0 45.5 2.95 2706 96.4 59710 8740 1.196 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2209 111.0 44.8 2.90 2697 96.2 60000 8638 1.191 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 7828 SSC 112.0 46.7 3.03 2685 93.7 57159 8961 1.211 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 204 106.1 44.5 2.88 2682 96.2 60000 8472 1.197 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Raufoss RA4 109.6 44.5 2.88 2682 96.2 60000 8472 1.197 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 ~approximation 109.6 44.5 2.88 2682 96.2 60000 8472 1.197 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP14 ~approximation 112.0 45.5 2.95 2680 96.1 58307 8619 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
IMR 4831 112.0 43.5 2.82 2680 99.7 58697 8140 1.221 ! Near Maximum !
Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 110.3 43.3 2.80 2679 100.0 60000 7665 1.200 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 107.2 44.1 2.86 2670 97.8 60000 8261 1.209 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Somchem S385 112.0 45.9 2.98 2666 97.2 58566 8379 1.222 ! Near Maximum !
Norma 203 old 99.3 40.7 2.64 2664 100.0 60000 7728 1.227 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP3 99.3 40.7 2.64 2664 100.0 60000 7728 1.227 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H380 98.5 40.8 2.65 2658 99.5 60000 7985 1.221 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R903 101.6 40.8 2.64 2658 100.0 60000 7655 1.228 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N560 112.0 46.4 3.01 2656 92.5 52850 9138 1.252 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S070 106.2 42.6 2.76 2656 98.2 60000 8133 1.222 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Winchester Supreme 780 110.0 47.1 3.05 2655 96.0 60000 8242 1.199 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
ADI AR 2213 112.0 45.9 2.98 2651 93.2 55918 8801 1.225 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S355 101.4 40.3 2.61 2650 100.0 60000 7661 1.225 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Rottweil R904 110.1 44.1 2.86 2645 94.9 60000 8170 1.205 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Hodgdon H4831 SC 112.0 45.9 2.98 2643 93.4 58650 8374 1.209 ! Near Maximum !
Raufoss RA15 112.0 45.9 2.98 2640 94.9 51964 8931 1.263 ! Near Maximum !
Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 112.0 45.9 2.98 2640 94.9 51964 8931 1.263 ! Near Maximum !
Alliant Reloder-22 112.0 45.9 2.98 2640 94.9 51964 8931 1.263 ! Near Maximum !
Lovex S065 104.7 41.6 2.69 2635 99.0 60000 7862 1.225 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2520 92.0 39.4 2.55 2632 100.0 60000 7213 1.233 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Lovex D073.6 94.1 39.4 2.55 2632 100.0 60000 7213 1.233 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4064 99.1 39.4 2.55 2632 100.0 60000 7212 1.251 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
SNPE Vectan SP 7 92.9 40.4 2.62 2629 99.4 60000 7678 1.227 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate MAGPRO 112.0 48.3 3.13 2626 90.0 51678 9041 1.268 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R907 103.2 41.1 2.66 2624 97.5 60000 7913 1.223 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Bofors RP7 103.2 41.1 2.66 2624 97.5 60000 7913 1.223 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4007 SSC 99.9 41.1 2.67 2624 97.5 60000 7907 1.223 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Magnum 112.0 49.5 3.21 2617 95.2 53974 8585 1.244 ! Near Maximum !
Somchem S361 108.8 47.0 3.05 2611 93.8 60000 7964 1.218 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 2495 93.3 37.0 2.40 2606 100.0 60000 6913 1.259 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
IMR 4955 Enduron 112.0 44.2 2.87 2591 93.5 56847 8058 1.235 ! Near Maximum !
Rottweil R901 92.9 35.8 2.32 2583 100.0 60000 6885 1.248 !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant Reloder-23 112.0 44.5 2.88 2569 99.2 46628 8379 1.323
Rottweil R905 112.0 45.1 2.92 2568 91.8 50434 8417 1.287
Accurate 3100 112.0 45.5 2.95 2563 97.4 50695 8068 1.306
Bofors RP15 112.0 45.0 2.91 2559 93.3 47276 8683 1.319
Winchester WXR 112.0 45.0 2.91 2559 93.3 47276 8683 1.319
SNPE Vectan SP 12 112.0 48.5 3.14 2548 91.2 48676 8748 1.301
PB Clermont PCL 517 112.0 48.5 3.14 2542 90.9 48414 8735 1.304
Hodgdon H4831 112.0 44.2 2.86 2526 91.2 50685 8022 1.290
Bofors RP5 NT ~approximation 112.0 46.3 3.00 2515 88.3 49946 8192 1.298
IMR 7828 112.0 44.2 2.86 2511 90.3 46524 8415 1.328
Vihtavuori N165 112.0 45.0 2.91 2504 94.5 48983 7777 1.312
ADI AP 2214 112.0 47.2 3.06 2502 90.2 48828 8284 1.307
Alliant Reloder-25 112.0 45.2 2.93 2497 95.8 42803 8656 1.373
Vihtavuori N160 112.0 43.6 2.82 2495 92.4 50643 7629 1.300
Lovex S071 112.0 43.0 2.79 2403 95.0 40936 7680 1.437
Norma MRP 2 112.0 45.5 2.95 2391 87.7 38002 8369 1.456
Bofors RP30 112.0 45.5 2.95 2391 87.7 38002 8369 1.456
IMR 7977 Enduron 112.0 45.0 2.91 2391 81.6 50125 7006 1.323
Vihtavuori N570 112.0 47.9 3.11 2343 78.0 37436 8378 1.471
ADI AR 2217 112.0 45.0 2.91 2341 86.2 40317 7694 1.428
Hodgdon H1000 112.0 45.0 2.91 2341 86.2 40317 7694 1.428
ADI AR 2225 112.0 45.7 2.96 2272 86.9 34314 8067 1.525
Hodgdon Retumbo 112.0 45.7 2.96 2272 86.9 34314 8067 1.525
Alliant Reloder-33 112.0 49.3 3.20 2262 76.0 35028 7996 1.521
Lovex D100 112.0 48.9 3.17 2250 74.1 40073 6851 1.454
Vihtavuori N170 112.0 45.0 2.91 2215 77.7 34957 6990 1.535
ReloadSwiss RS 80 112.0 49.3 3.20 2206 74.6 33508 7752 1.554
Vihtavuori 24N41 112.0 48.4 3.14 2206 69.6 37449 6923 1.496
ADI AR 2218 112.0 48.4 3.14 2176 69.2 35081 7335 1.537
Norma 217 112.0 44.8 2.90 2163 82.3 28870 7782 1.647
Hodgdon H870 112.0 46.9 3.04 2134 74.3 29867 7392 1.632
Bofors 12,7mmRA NC1214 Lot20115087 112.0 48.1 3.12 2056 63.5 27250 6766 1.703
Alliant Reloder-50 112.0 49.2 3.19 2053 68.3 26572 7234 1.711
Hodgdon 50BMG 112.0 46.1 2.99 2041 61.3 30075 6237 1.646
Hodgdon US 869 112.0 48.4 3.14 2033 64.5 29741 6281 1.657
SNPE Vectan SP 13 112.0 46.4 3.01 1987 68.5 26559 6273 1.732
Accurate 8700 112.0 47.4 3.07 1940 64.9 26803 5952 1.737
PB Clermont PCL 513/520/9520 112.0 46.4 3.01 1929 64.8 25175 5956 1.777
Vihtavuori 20N29 112.0 48.9 3.17 1909 61.6 25166 5933 1.779
NC A3502 ,test only 112.0 44.5 2.88 1792 44.0 25371 4212 1.808
TLP A 502(RH) ,test only 112.0 44.5 2.88 1773 47.5 23361 4493 1.861
V1734 7-multiperf ,test only 112.0 44.5 2.88 1274 21.5 13631 2039 2.416
Last edited by TackDriver; 02/17/18 09:05 PM.
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Re: Problem ELDX 7mm08
[Re: GLC]
#7082717
02/17/18 09:13 PM
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Joined: May 2014
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TackDriver
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If you get me some data like velocity, barrel length, case H20 capacity, bullet, powder used, etc, I may help pinpoint your possible nodes with Quickload.
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Re: Problem ELDX 7mm08
[Re: GLC]
#7083328
02/18/18 02:31 PM
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Joined: May 2016
Posts: 352
cblackall
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GLC, I’ve been trying to upload photos from my iPhone, but it’s telling me they’re the wrong format. I’ve never had this issue in the past. I can text photos if you want them. I’m loading a fairly stiff load of Varget behind the ELD-M. Start around 39.0 gr, and work up. I haven’t found them to be seating depth sensitive. I just went as long as my unmodified 700 action would allow, which is 2.860” and they shot well. My magazines allow for longer seating, but I’d need to notch my receiver. As stated earlier, I’m jumping .075 thousandths.
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Re: Problem ELDX 7mm08
[Re: TackDriver]
#7083734
02/18/18 08:40 PM
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Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,872
GLC
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THF Trophy Hunter
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If you get me some data like velocity, barrel length, case H20 capacity, bullet, powder used, etc, I may help pinpoint your possible nodes with Quickload. Unfortunately can't give you a lot of info, no crono, no H20 case capacity known, 22 inch barrel, bullet Hornady ELDX 150 grain, IMR 4064.
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Re: Problem ELDX 7mm08
[Re: cblackall]
#7083742
02/18/18 08:48 PM
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Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,872
GLC
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THF Trophy Hunter
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GLC, I’ve been trying to upload photos from my iPhone, but it’s telling me they’re the wrong format. I’ve never had this issue in the past. I can text photos if you want them. I’m loading a fairly stiff load of Varget behind the ELD-M. Start around 39.0 gr, and work up. I haven’t found them to be seating depth sensitive. I just went as long as my unmodified 700 action would allow, which is 2.860” and they shot well. My magazines allow for longer seating, but I’d need to notch my receiver. As stated earlier, I’m jumping .075 thousandths. I am going to try a lot hotter loads in the 150's for more velocity while checking for pressure signs. I am shooting a long action chassis gun so I can load very long.
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Re: Problem ELDX 7mm08
[Re: GLC]
#7084810
02/19/18 05:57 PM
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Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 5,872
GLC
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THF Trophy Hunter
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Back from the range, I give up on the 7mm ELDX. Going back to Nosler.
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Re: Problem ELDX 7mm08
[Re: J.G.]
#7099397
03/03/18 02:07 AM
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Posts: 5,872
GLC
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Be sure and let me know how many you have, so I'll have the right amount of cash to hand you. Fyi, your pm is full, bringing 171, 162 eldx and a few 150 eldx.
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