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#7060878 - 01/31/18 06:33 PM VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate
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Im a southpaw and working on a rifle that will be a mirror image of the Remington 700 VS-- it'll be a copy of the Gen 1 in short action which lots of folks still call 'sendero' but they aren't technically.

Anyways-- cartridge is 22-250AI, barrel length will be 26" @ .830 (Remington Varmint Contour) planning to shoot 75s, 80s and maybe try out the 90s if they'll magazine feed (if I need to add a wyatts extended internal box I'll do that).

Barrels that are available:
Brux 1-8
Krieger 1-8
Bartlein 1-7.7 or 1-7 (5R rifling)

Talk to me on advantages / disadvantages.

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#7060906 - 01/31/18 06:52 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: duckhunter175]
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I run a 7 in my 22 creed and have ran the 80-90gr vld with great luck.
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#7060913 - 01/31/18 06:59 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: dee]
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Originally Posted By: dee
I run a 7 in my 22 creed and have ran the 80-90gr vld with great luck.


What platform? Any issues loading to magazine length? And what velocity are you seeing?

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#7060925 - 01/31/18 07:11 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: duckhunter175]
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Any will work pretty good...don't see any real advantage of going over 80 grain bullet and a 1-8 will stabilize it...

Ed

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#7060947 - 01/31/18 07:21 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: 505ed]
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Originally Posted By: 505ed
Any will work pretty good...don't see any real advantage of going over 80 grain bullet and a 1-8 will stabilize it...

Ed


Any advantage to 5R vs standard in a fast cartridge?

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#7060953 - 01/31/18 07:26 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: duckhunter175]
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Originally Posted By: duckhunter175
Originally Posted By: dee
I run a 7 in my 22 creed and have ran the 80-90gr vld with great luck.


What platform? Any issues loading to magazine length? And what velocity are you seeing?


Bolt gun running aics mags with zero issues. 90's are running 3240fps. 80's are a bit slower at 3124fps as I tried a slower powder but it's killed varmints and deer just fine.
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#7060957 - 01/31/18 07:32 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: duckhunter175]
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1:8, or 1:7.7

I run 75 gr A-Maxes at 3200 fps out of a standard .22-250, 1:8. If it were me in your shoes, I'd go with either of those twist rates I listed, and run 80 gr bullets. I'm thinking an ELD-M will do fine on varmints.
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#7061085 - 01/31/18 08:56 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: dee]
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Originally Posted By: dee
Originally Posted By: duckhunter175
Originally Posted By: dee
I run a 7 in my 22 creed and have ran the 80-90gr vld with great luck.


What platform? Any issues loading to magazine length? And what velocity are you seeing?


Bolt gun running aics mags with zero issues. 90's are running 3240fps. 80's are a bit slower at 3124fps as I tried a slower powder but it's killed varmints and deer just fine.


Standard 2.85" for those mags?

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#7061103 - 01/31/18 09:13 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: duckhunter175]
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Since you mention the 90 grain, that's the bullet you have to build around, since it's the heaviest/longest of the options. It will work with a 7" twist, but a little better with a 6.5" twist. I'd run a 7" twist.

A standard 308 mag will feed any bullet you want and still be well under max COAL for those mags in a 22-250. That 80 grain VLD Target would be AWESOME in a fast 22-250 round. I have thought about doing one of these also.
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#7061123 - 01/31/18 09:23 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: duckhunter175]
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Originally Posted By: duckhunter175
Originally Posted By: dee
Originally Posted By: duckhunter175
Originally Posted By: dee
I run a 7 in my 22 creed and have ran the 80-90gr vld with great luck.


What platform? Any issues loading to magazine length? And what velocity are you seeing?


Bolt gun running aics mags with zero issues. 90's are running 3240fps. 80's are a bit slower at 3124fps as I tried a slower powder but it's killed varmints and deer just fine.


Standard 2.85" for those mags?


I believe so. I've got a few with no bind plate and a few with them. Also got a few magpul which are as shipped and it works with all of them. Running a 22-250 which is very similar in case length you'll have zero issue's as Chad mentions.
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#7061144 - 01/31/18 09:37 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: duckhunter175]
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Why do you want to shoot 90gr bullets out of a 22-250 at varmints?

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#7061158 - 01/31/18 09:51 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: scalebuster]
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Originally Posted By: scalebuster
Why do you want to shoot 90gr bullets out of a 22-250 at varmints?


I just want the ability to shoot them at varmints and targets, especially if they are a long ways off, I can maintain good velocity, and much less drift. Also opens opportunities for deer / hogs. I figure setting up for the heavy for caliber bullets will make 70-80gr a cinch if I go lighter/faster.

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#7061181 - 01/31/18 10:14 PM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
That 80 grain VLD Target would be AWESOME in a fast 22-250 round. I have thought about doing one of these also.


Berger 80 gr VLD, G-7 .233

Hornady 80 gr ELD-M, G-7 .244
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#7061353 - 02/01/18 06:44 AM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
That 80 grain VLD Target would be AWESOME in a fast 22-250 round. I have thought about doing one of these also.


Berger 80 gr VLD, G-7 .233

Hornady 80 gr ELD-M, G-7 .244



Berger 90gr VLD, G-7 .272
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#7061410 - 02/01/18 07:43 AM Re: VARMINT Build-- Twist Rate [Re: dee]
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Yes, Chad brought up 80's. I was just pointing him to another 80. Berger is no longer King of BC.
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