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#7051569 - 01/24/18 02:55 PM Cutting Edge Bullet range report
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just got home from the range. what a great day to be outside. i'll post pictures in a few minutes but they shot terrible in my loading. i'll have to contact them, see what I've done wrong. the ELD-X's were fantastic as were the Nosler 140 Ballistic Tips.

The bullets are to be seated just to the Seal tight band. This really put the bullets deep into the pretty full cases. I haven't measured to the lands with these yet, just loaded as per Cutting Edge suggestions.. we'll see. bang
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#7051577 - 01/24/18 02:58 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
The bullets are to be seated just to the Seal tight band. This really put the bullets deep into the pretty full cases.


Hey Buzz, why to the bands? Why would it matter? With their aggressive ogive bullets, I'd seat them as close to the rifling as I could get it.

And yes, today would be a GREAT range day. I wanted to go, but I had too much ammo to get shipped and done.
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#7051596 - 01/24/18 03:06 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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That’s what they recommend, but I don’t think it has to be done that way.

Did you try different charge weights?
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#7051603 - 01/24/18 03:11 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Check these out, I mounted the n ew Swarovski Z6 5-30X50, so the groups are all over the place as I sighted it in.

This first target is my Fairbanks custom 6.5 Creedmoor 140 Amax, 42.4 H-4350, and my Remington 700 5R, Think I'm gonna shoot one of these at Jason's match, depends on which one I can hold up the longest!!!!!!



This one is the Barrett, 1-8 Twist, 21" #1 contour barrel, 6.5 Creed, 42.4 H-4350 Nosler Ballistic Tips and the ELDX !! nice.



OK, here are the Cutting Edge targets , look like I shot the target with buckshot.




Here is a round showing seated to their seal tight band. There is a groove, band, another groove.



AND NOW I NEED A DRINK banana



Edited by Buzzsaw (01/24/18 03:14 PM)
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#7051610 - 01/24/18 03:15 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Your velocities are all over the place. Just need to find the right node for that bullet. It will be different from other bullets of the same weight, because of the bore riding design reducing pressures.
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#7051639 - 01/24/18 03:37 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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They gave me this, seems awfully light loads. They also sent me loads from Quick Books

James,

Here is some data for the single feed and magazine feed. The loads below are proven data from our own testing with the magazine feed 130gr. These 3 powders have been the best for the Creedmoor. These again are all max loads. Let me know if you have any questions!

Rifle
6.5Creedmoor
6.5Creedmoor
6.5Creedmoor
Bullet
MTH 264 130
MTH 264 130
MTH 264 130
Bullet Weight
130gr
130gr
130gr
Powder
H4350
VARGET
H4895
Powder Weight
39.0gr
34.0gr
33.0
Primer
Fed210
Fed210
Fed210
C.O.A.L.
2.640”
2.640”
2.640”
Velocity
2700fps
2650fps
2600fps
Barrel Length
26”
26”
26”
Group( yrds)



Conditions





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#7051644 - 01/24/18 03:39 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Their lawyer safe max loads. No way that’s true max.
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#7051648 - 01/24/18 03:43 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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39.0 grain of H4350 with a 130 grain at 2700 fps in a 26" barrel? Jeez, that's very light. And, why would you use H4895 in a 6.5 CM with a 130 grain? I can see someone using Varget, but 4895 is not in the right burn rate for that round.
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#7051655 - 01/24/18 03:47 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I sent them an email for suggestions, I have a ton of more powders they list on their Quick Load Data
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#7051720 - 01/24/18 04:25 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Buzz, H4350 will work fine. You could also copy Barnes data, since they are copper bullets also. Just check the bearing surface in comparison to the CE bullets. If the bearing surface is more, then reduce the load some, and vice versa.
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#7051817 - 01/24/18 05:29 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
39.0 grain of H4350 with a 130 grain at 2700 fps in a 26" barrel? Jeez, that's very light. And, why would you use H4895 in a 6.5 CM with a 130 grain?


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#7059048 - 01/30/18 04:47 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I'm really disappointed in cutting edge. I've sent them three emails with these pictures asking for help and suggestions. all I received back are cricket chirps.

I guess they are too busy setting 3 mile shot loads confused2
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#7059157 - 01/30/18 05:59 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I guess they are too busy setting 3 mile shot loads confused2


Or busy dealing with a customer who wants to work up a load versus getting a magic load that just shoots? bang
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#7059302 - 01/30/18 07:39 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I'm really disappointed in cutting edge. I've sent them three emails with these pictures asking for help and suggestions. all I received back are cricket chirps.

I guess they are too busy setting 3 mile shot loads confused2


Have you tried actual load work up, or just a few loads that you thought would work?
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#7059574 - 01/30/18 10:15 PM Re: Cutting Edge Bullet range report [Re: Sneaky]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I'm really disappointed in cutting edge. I've sent them three emails with these pictures asking for help and suggestions. all I received back are cricket chirps.

I guess they are too busy setting 3 mile shot loads confused2


Have you tried actual load work up, or just a few loads that you thought would work?


well, the bullets are $1.16 each, I was kinda hoping my ELDX and Ballistic loadings would work. So, yes, I will try some work up, thought i'd get lucky hammer
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