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#7041977 - 01/17/18 01:10 PM 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM
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I started a thread last week asking why the Nosler Accubonds weren't expanding that I was using in my .300 RUM. I got several responses to jump up in weight and shoot something heavier than the 150 grainers I was using. I found some Berger VLD Hunting 168 grain and was curious at everyone's opinion of this weight/bullet is??

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#7041988 - 01/17/18 01:19 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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If your main concern is bullet performance, and you are hunting/shooting at a maximum of 300 yards or so, why are you so concentrating on bullets designed to perform and expand at long distances? Too many people fail to grasp the obvious. Pick the game you are shooting, the range you are shooting at, and then choose your bullet. Whitetails at under 300 yards with a .300 RUM? 180 grain Nosler Partitions or Barnes TSX.

You are trying to drag race to the grocery store, when the pickup will get you there just fine.
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#7041990 - 01/17/18 01:20 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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I think the responses to jump up in weight were misguided, they were trying to convince you that if your shooting a 300 rum you need to be shooting high bc bullets at long range. If you want a big nasty hole then light and fast should do it. Try a 150 grain ballistic tip or a 150 grain sierra gameking etc. Sure the 168 will do the same probably.
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#7042009 - 01/17/18 01:27 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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You're still going to be too fast. Give me a .300 RUM and tell me to load it with a Berger VLD Hunting, and I'm going to pick a 210 gr.

That's the bullet I put in a friend's .300 Win Mag, and he keeps telling me it's Thor's hammer on everything he's hit with it.
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#7042022 - 01/17/18 01:36 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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Too fast? Faster = more expansion heavier = slower velocity and more penetration. He already has penetration, he is looking for a traumatic DRT, high velocity and any readily expanding bullet will give him what he is looking for and a hell of a mess on the gutting rack, but he shot the other one in his other post sternum to but hole so I doubt he cares.
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#7042026 - 01/17/18 01:40 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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I think a 168 grain Berger in a .300 RUM will be a disaster. Any frangible bullet will be in that weight range and speed. Get something tougher or slow it down.
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#7042046 - 01/17/18 01:48 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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shoot them in mine use the yellow box killed ever thing i have shot

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#7042051 - 01/17/18 01:54 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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Well, chit man, I have some 30 cal sabots we can put a 55 grain SP .224" bullet in, and rock this beoch!! 6000 fps and minus 1 moa come up at 300 yards, since it's so fast. When you push a bullet that fast, it actually rises!!

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#7042073 - 01/17/18 02:09 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Well, chit man, I have some 30 cal sabots we can put a 55 grain SP .224" bullet in, and rock this beoch!! 6000 fps and minus 1 moa come up at 300 yards, since it's so fast. When you push a bullet that fast, it actually rises!!



There ya' go. Shoot them square in the leather cherry and his goals will be accomplished...
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#7042076 - 01/17/18 02:12 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
Too fast? Faster = more expansion heavier = slower velocity and more penetration. He already has penetration, he is looking for a traumatic DRT, high velocity and any readily expanding bullet will give him what he is looking for and a hell of a mess on the gutting rack, but he shot the other one in his other post sternum to but hole so I doubt he cares.


I've had great luck with heavy for caliber Berger VLD-Hunting. So, yes, slow it down.

180 gr, 7mm 2950 fps MV.
210 gr, .30 cal 2880 fps MV
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#7042208 - 01/17/18 03:47 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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Originally Posted By: corps2010
I started a thread last week asking why the Nosler Accubonds weren't expanding that I was using in my .300 RUM. I got several responses to jump up in weight and shoot something heavier than the 150 grainers I was using. I found some Berger VLD Hunting 168 grain and was curious at everyone's opinion of this weight/bullet is??


I'm just curious, why would you want to put a 168 VLD-H in a 300 RUM?
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#7042221 - 01/17/18 03:56 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: corps2010]
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Yep. Slow it down.

Some very detailed info on different 30 cal bullets in 300 rum... https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/.300+Remington+Ultra+Magnum.html

And some essential reading on wounding/ terminal performance... https://www.ballisticstudies.com/Knowledgebase/Effective+Game+Killing.html
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#7042410 - 01/17/18 06:29 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: ChadTRG42]
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because they shoot great is why i shoot 168


Edited by killen (01/17/18 06:30 PM)

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#7042436 - 01/17/18 06:45 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: killen]
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Originally Posted By: killen
because they shoot great is why i shoot 168


A heavier bullet can be made to shoot great as well. That only needs a search for the right powder charge for your barrel and bullet.
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#7042642 - 01/17/18 09:20 PM Re: 168 gr Berger VLD Hunting for .300 RUM [Re: ChadTRG42]
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I'm just curious, why would you want to put a 168 VLD-H in a 300 RUM? [/quote]


Only reason Im asking is because I found a decent deal on some and based off what I took from the opinions of my previous thread, they're heavier than the 150's I've been using. I shot a couple boxes of factory HSM ammo in the 168's before and they did fine I guess (killed what I shot with them). I'm just getting into reloading and am wanting others opinion on if the 168 VLD-H is what I should be changing to from an Accubond. I'm all ears on recommendations from anybody. Is it not a good round to use in a .300 RUM?

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