One thing your doing wrong on trips like this is not allowing enough time. Elk hunters are the worst. Guys on the east coast have from Friday until the following Sunday to drive out west, make camp, try to get on elk, and then allow time to get back for Monday work. Just about the time they have the elk patterned somewhat its time to pack and go home. You can be one of the best but if your time allotment is not adequate you will struggle to kill birds. Still have a good time but just don't count on high kill rates. I'd allow at least 2 days scouting, then go buy license/tags and hunt 4-5 days. Scout some each day also. Thats public hunting. If your getting a day lease then it all changes.