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#7036089 - 01/12/18 04:32 PM MLDP question
WatersFowler Offline
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Registered: 08/19/12
Posts: 250
Loc: Melissa, TX
We are thinking of approaching our land owner about applying for MLDP. We would do all the work and pay the costs. What would be a good guess for total cost to go through this process for the first year and then the following years? Thanks fellas.
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#7036541 - 01/13/18 06:52 AM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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Not sure of the license fee but I do know it's not expensive at all. Really more time intensive filling out the application and doing population survey.

Under the knew format that started this year you can go without the survey and they issue tags based on county census for your area.
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#7037135 - 01/13/18 05:15 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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Loc: Central Texas
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding, unless you're absolutely covered up in does there's no reason to go MLD. Depending on what they find on your place, they can say you have to take off 60 does, or they can say you can't take any doe at all, and everything in between regardless the county regs. I looked into it some 20 years ago and unless something's changed it was pretty much a one-way street, too. Hard to get out of once you're in it.
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#7037146 - 01/13/18 05:19 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: Slow Drifter]
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Originally Posted By: Slow Drifter
Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but from my understanding, unless you're absolutely covered up in does there's no reason to go MLD. Depending on what they find on your place, they can say you have to take off 60 does, or they can say you can't take any doe at all, and everything in between regardless the county regs. I looked into it some 20 years ago and unless something's changed it was pretty much a one-way street, too. Hard to get out of once you're in it.


You make a valid argument there are WAY too many folks on the program for the wrong reasons.

That last part is incorrect though you can get out at anytime.

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#7037154 - 01/13/18 05:29 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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OK, so it changed. Good to know, thank you. When I was looking into it years ago, it took another survey showing the results they wanted to see to get out of it.

edited to add: And unless I'm imagining it, I think there was a 10 year minimum period, as well. It may have been a 5 year.


Edited by Slow Drifter (01/13/18 05:36 PM)
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#7037218 - 01/13/18 06:15 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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As of 2017-18 season there is 2 different MLDP programs. LO or agent will have to decide which way to go.
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#7037446 - 01/13/18 08:45 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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There is no cost to do the MLD program, I have been doing it for 8 years in Milam county, its a very easy process, i just have to send game cam pics to the biologist and then he emails me how every many doe and buck tags he thinks i should harvest, i also get to hunt till Feb 28th, as far as land owner he will send them a email.

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#7037470 - 01/13/18 09:06 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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Registered: 05/05/08
Posts: 1995
Loc: Bandera County
MLD can be a good thing for those that can benefit their Ranch in a positive way such as culling large numbers of doe and unwanted buck genetics without increasing the number of hunters, by accepting MLD you also grant unconditional access to your Ranch to TPWD. This is something to think about!

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#7041220 - 01/16/18 10:32 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
WatersFowler Offline
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Registered: 08/19/12
Posts: 250
Loc: Melissa, TX
This is all very interesting. We have some really nice deer, but are plagued by some very narrow racks on mature deer that are illegal to harvest due to antler restrictions. I think our buck to doe ratio is good, but I don't want the dominant narrow bucks breeding the doe. I have a 150" 3 1/2 yo buck who won't come close to entering a feed pen when an old 8 pt with 10" spread is near the feeder. The 8 pt has 6" bases and 12" G2's! Deer needs to go but is restricted. Thanks for the information.
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#7041630 - 01/17/18 09:19 AM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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Loc: Nacogdoches, Tx
Go to the TPW website. They have an estimator that will tell you what you might can expect in the way of permits. You type in the county the property is in, out line the property on the map, and it will tell you what you can expect based on acreage and county census of deer population. I have heard some say that the estimate is much lower than what you actually get but when I did it for one of my leases the estimator told me it wasn't worth it.

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#7041746 - 01/17/18 10:29 AM Re: MLDP question [Re: Russ79]
WatersFowler Offline
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Registered: 08/19/12
Posts: 250
Loc: Melissa, TX
Originally Posted By: Russ79
Go to the TPW website. They have an estimator that will tell you what you might can expect in the way of permits. You type in the county the property is in, out line the property on the map, and it will tell you what you can expect based on acreage and county census of deer population. I have heard some say that the estimate is much lower than what you actually get but when I did it for one of my leases the estimator told me it wasn't worth it.


Wow thanks for the heads up. I ran the estimate and was really close to what I was expecting. I had no idea this was available.
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#7041999 - 01/17/18 01:24 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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Registered: 05/13/17
Posts: 158
Loc: Denison, TX. / Texoma
Originally Posted By: WatersFowler
We are thinking of approaching our land owner about applying for MLDP. We would do all the work and pay the costs. What would be a good guess for total cost to go through this process for the first year and then the following years? Thanks fellas.


Good advice to go to the TPWD site for the answers however that tells you how to go about applying...it does not answer the question of need.

Have you done a survey? If not, that is the place to start. Then you have validated data to go on. We do 2 surveys a year. 1 is done on the ground via vehicles and the other is flown. Outcomes are far better once you have the actual survey data from your property.
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#7042003 - 01/17/18 01:24 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
PMK Offline
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Registered: 09/10/12
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Loc: Central TX (Gtown/Austin)
do you have to create an account to get to the estimator?
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#7042032 - 01/17/18 01:42 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: PMK]
BenBob Offline
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Registered: 01/27/06
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Loc: Undercover
Originally Posted By: PMK
do you have to create an account to get to the estimator?


No
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#7042764 - 01/17/18 11:34 PM Re: MLDP question [Re: WatersFowler]
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Registered: 08/19/12
Posts: 250
Loc: Melissa, TX
I agree a survey is extremely important, but this does give you an idea of what you might expect.

https://lma.tpwd.state.tx.us/tag-estimator
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