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#7035785 - 01/12/18 11:31 AM Die question
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So I now have a 9mm luger. In a position I haven't been in for 20 years, I own a caliber I'm not set up to reload for.

Any recommendations on dies?
I have never loaded for a caliber for a taper crimp, anything different about it? or is it similar to setting up a roll crimp style die?

I'm sure I wont save any or much loading 9mm, but I enjoy doing my own stuff.

Are there any issues with using handloads for cc if you ever have to use it? I know sounds like a stupid question, but I swore I read something about it opening you up to more liability or something.
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#7035786 - 01/12/18 11:33 AM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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Carbide dies are only way to go for pistol ammo.

I cc my ammo but it similar (actually slower) to factory stuff.
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#7035790 - 01/12/18 11:38 AM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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Any benefit to something like a Lee factory crimp die? or would any of the normal 3 die carbide sets do anything I need?
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#7035860 - 01/12/18 12:46 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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Can't really say. I have never ran lee stuff.
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#7036119 - 01/12/18 04:52 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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All my pistol dies are Lee. Iíd go ahead and get the 4 die set, with the crimp die. I donít use the crimp die with 9mm, but I use it on all 357.

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#7036145 - 01/12/18 05:21 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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Lee 4 die set and be happy.

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#7036281 - 01/12/18 07:41 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy


Are there any issues with using handloads for cc if you ever have to use it? I know sounds like a stupid question, but I swore I read something about it opening you up to more liability or something.


There's always a thug with a defense attorney who'll try to convince a jury that you had it in for his client so badly that you shot him with handloaded super mankiller ammo instead of relying on simple storebought ammo.
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#7036317 - 01/12/18 08:18 PM Re: Die question [Re: Dennis in Ft Worth]
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Originally Posted By: Dennis in Ft Worth
Originally Posted By: redchevy


Are there any issues with using handloads for cc if you ever have to use it? I know sounds like a stupid question, but I swore I read something about it opening you up to more liability or something.


There's always a thug with a defense attorney who'll try to convince a jury that you had it in for his client so badly that you shot him with handloaded super mankiller ammo instead of relying on simple storebought ammo.


I do not disagree.

However, I trust my hand loads more than any mass produced ammo. Rather be alive and sued, than dead and not sued.
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#7036349 - 01/12/18 08:51 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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I believe it's a myth that handloads get you in legal trouble in self defense situations.

I wouldnt use an FCD on any autoloader pistol round. Remember that the cartridge headspaces on the mouth. A regular taper crimp is fine as long as the case is sufficiently reduced in resizing. Crimp only enough to remove the flaring from the case.

It's a good idea to seat and crimp in separate operations, but not essential. I always do because I load only cast bullets.

One very good way to check your crimp is to remove the barrel from your pistol and verify that the finished round falls into the chamber without any persuasion. It makes a satisfying sound, kinda like "plunk." That's probably why it's commonly known as the plunk test.

Handgun reloading is fun and simple. I think you'll enjoy it.
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#7036350 - 01/12/18 08:52 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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The Lee three die set is what I have used for over 30 years.
Go easy on the crimp because the 9mm head spaces on the case mouth.
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#7036683 - 01/13/18 09:48 AM Re: Die question [Re: 240z]
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Originally Posted By: 240z
The Lee three die set is what I have used for over 30 years.
Go easy on the crimp because the 9mm head spaces on the case mouth.
Sorry to hijack, but I just got a set of 45 ACP dies and I'm wondering if the 45 ACP does as well? I could see how most auto cartridges would work that way?

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#7036841 - 01/13/18 12:22 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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Was at our local academy this morning they carry some components and equipment I had a gift card and they had hornady dies with the free box of bullet offer, Iím set
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#7036849 - 01/13/18 12:30 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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Every self loading pistol cartridge I can think of headspaces on the case mouth, except I'm not sure how you approach the bottlenecked cartridges like .357 Sig. Never messed with them.
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#7037557 - 01/13/18 09:55 PM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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I use lee dies. I would highly recommend buying a lee FCD for any caliber.
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#7037639 - 01/14/18 04:19 AM Re: Die question [Re: redchevy]
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RC, you will be good with what you bought. I have used the both seating die to crimp as well as a Lee FCD after seating. Either are OK. To set the crimp, use the plunk test. Take the barell off your 9mm. Increase crimp a little at a time till the loaded round will freely drop in the chamber and the case mouth plunks against the bottom of the chamber. Tighten the lock ring and you are good to go.
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