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#7030988 - 01/09/18 07:11 AM Cryotherapy anyone?
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Anyone use it?

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#7031676 - 01/09/18 03:09 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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it is snake oil...if you wanna waste your money on it, go ahead, but there is no scientific benefit that can be any better than walking out in the cold for a few minutes and walking back inside.

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#7031689 - 01/09/18 03:20 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: Texas buckeye]
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Originally Posted By: Texas buckeye
it is snake oil...if you wanna waste your money on it, go ahead, but there is no scientific benefit that can be any better than walking out in the cold for a few minutes and walking back inside.



Itís not hard to find information about the potential benefits from it.

The Effect of Post-Exercise Cryotherapy ...d Meta-Analysis

Iíd prefer to read/hear opinions from someone whoís actually used it rather than a skeptic with zero first-hand experience. Thanks.

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#7031804 - 01/09/18 04:49 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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Originally Posted By: MeanGreen85
Originally Posted By: Texas buckeye
it is snake oil...if you wanna waste your money on it, go ahead, but there is no scientific benefit that can be any better than walking out in the cold for a few minutes and walking back inside.



Itís not hard to find information about the potential benefits from it.

The Effect of Post-Exercise Cryotherapy ...d Meta-Analysis

Iíd prefer to read/hear opinions from someone whoís actually used it rather than a skeptic with zero first-hand experience. Thanks.



Straight from the abstract/article you pulled as evidence it works:

There was no evidence, that cooling affects any objective recovery variable in a significant way during a 96 hrs recovery period.


That means in a analysis of over 36 articles written about different cooling techniques used post workout, none were found to be better than just recovering.

Me thinks you might want to get some idea what you are talking about before you bash someone else about what they "don't know" about...


Edited by Texas buckeye (01/09/18 04:51 PM)

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#7031814 - 01/09/18 04:56 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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As an aside, if you ask people if it "works" you will probably get at least 50% that said it did "work" because they paid for it. No one wants to admit they got conned or took the snake oil.

Its like all the nutraceuticals out there now. Are any of them any better than say a normal multivitamin? I had some friends who swore by Thrive. Said it did this and that and made them feel the bomb...all while costing them over $100/mo. The stuff is loaded with natural caffeine. Of course it will make you feel good, but they didn't know it or understand the caffeine were making them feel better and could lead to bad side effects. But, to them it solved the worlds problems, yet they still called off work sick as much as before and had the same drama as before.


Its your money. And its only money. If you want to do cryo, more power to you. If you are looking for a selection bias, well just keep looking, you will find all kinds of anecdote to say how good it is for you. I am not into wasting my money on snake oil. If you want to, go right ahead.

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#7031837 - 01/09/18 05:12 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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From the current results, one can conclude, that cooling is superior compared to passive recovery strategies after various exhaustive or muscle damaging exercise protocols. These results relate to the subjective effects of different cooling applications. Cooling showed significant effects in reducing the symptoms of DOMS (up to 96 hrs) and RPE (up to 24 hrs) compared to passive control interventions. CWI achieved the best effect with respect to the other cooling applications.


Also from the same study.

I agree with you on bias as a concern. Personally I think there are a lot of unknowns because there has not been much proper research on it at this point.

Iíd simply like opinions from people who have actually used it. If someone gets a perceived benefit from something, and some speculate that itís a placebo effect, does that negate the positive results?

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#7031840 - 01/09/18 05:13 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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And for what itís worth, I also think Thrive is complete waste of money.

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#7031851 - 01/09/18 05:22 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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OK let me redirect, what would you be trying to get out of cryotherapy?

Post exercise recovery? Healing from strains/sprains?


Edited by Texas buckeye (01/09/18 06:08 PM)

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#7032118 - 01/09/18 08:20 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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One of my best friends tried it and said he didn't feel any different. However, some people I know swear by it. Honestly, ice massage would probably be just as effective.

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#7032340 - 01/09/18 11:19 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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My wife has done it a couple times when she was recovering from a knee injury (most likely tendinitis) caused by a lot of running....after a month or so of rest and no improvement, she went and did cryo twice and her knee quit hurting. In her experience it definitely helped.

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#7032407 - 01/10/18 06:39 AM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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Interesting, thanks guys.

Iím curious about it because I have an opportunity to use it without too much expense. Iím hoping it could help me recover faster from training / strenuous workouts.

I already rinse off at the end of a shower with ďcoldĒ water, and I do think thatís helps with muscle-soreness and generally feeling better with more energy. Not really practical in Texas once winter ends, though. ďColdĒ shower water in July/August feels like a lukewarm bath to me.

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#7032737 - 01/10/18 09:45 AM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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I tried it once had a chance to do it for $15 so I said why not. Initially after the session there was a euphoric feeling back knees body all felt great and I seemed energized. Felt pretty good the rest of the day. But thatís about it. I could see doing a session if I was having a bad day with my back or something because it did relieve it for a bit. But thatís about it.

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#7032932 - 01/10/18 11:46 AM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: Bildo]
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I tried it once had a chance to do it for $15 so I said why not. Initially after the session there was a euphoric feeling back knees body all felt great and I seemed energized. Felt pretty good the rest of the day. But thatís about it. I could see doing a session if I was having a bad day with my back or something because it did relieve it for a bit. But thatís about it.


$15 is what it would cost me per session.

Those are pretty much the results Iím hoping for. Iíve started training this week for a trip into the mountains in August, and Iím pretty sore from utilizing some new muscles I havenít touched in months. Iím also going hiking his weekend with some friends, so I was thinking about trying out the Cryo the morning before my hike this weekend.

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#7032940 - 01/10/18 11:51 AM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: Bildo]
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Originally Posted By: Bildo
I tried it once had a chance to do it for $15 so I said why not. Initially after the session there was a euphoric feeling back knees body all felt great and I seemed energized. Felt pretty good the rest of the day. But thatís about it. I could see doing a session if I was having a bad day with my back or something because it did relieve it for a bit. But thatís about it.



I had this same reaction after the first time. I went and had the best workout of my life. The other few times I went was trying to help a lower back issue that didn't help because it ended up being a herniated disc. Id go try it at least once if I were you.
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#7033265 - 01/10/18 04:10 PM Re: Cryotherapy anyone? [Re: MeanGreen85]
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There's tons of people in the obstacle racing world that swear by it.
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