I'm a 7mm-08 lover, as well as a 6.5 Creedmoor lover. I'm just stating facts.

All I have at my desk is the Hornady manual but did concede the Creed is a better cartridge for punching paper.

The Nosler Accubond LR bullets list .625 for the 270 and .719 for the 6.5, pretty sleek bullets for sure.

Not just paper.

And we are comparing a long action to a short action, which really is a bad comparison. Compare a .270 to a 6.5-284, or a 6.5-06, which would be the same action and bolt as a .270

Bingo!

Westherby and now Nosler are real good at it.

And for the vast majority of HUNTERS it works great. Sure at 800 yards bc trumps velocity, but lets go ahead and calculate how many game animals are shot past 400 yards and how many are inside and for hunting purposes we can pretty much throw the BC away and grab velocity... maybe wby and nosler aren't so stupid after all.

Learn more science before commenting that way. What else contributes to energy delivery? Bullet weight, and BC.

What's it called when hogs and coyotes are shot, when in search of them. Is it not hunting?

I don't need to learn that to address this. How many hogs and coyotes are shot in the range where BC is king? How many where velocity is? you loose again.

Nothing is king. Or, should I say, nothing is king in every hunting situation.

There are a few ideal rounds and bullets for each situation. Situation = animal sought and likely ranges. Round and bullet work together.
Add in that it’s just about as important where you hit the animal, and the best one can do is plan as best one can for all possible contingencies. Which usually means a good all-around bullet pushed at a decent velocity when talking about Texas hunting.
The screamers are all the rage due to marketing - primarily marketing that they are so “flat” anyone can be a long ranger.

Either round is great for Texas hunting. The .270 has done me fine, but the 6.5 is better in many ways (not all) and if I were starting over is very likely where I would start.

It’s interesting that we will debate the tee-niniest differences of calibers very close to one another as if those differences are of much importance, yet on other threads many will argue in support of small calibers over mid-sized ones with mantras like “shot placement is everything” as if the differences don’t matter.

And shot placement isnt everything. Just shoot a 50BMG and get within 2 ft of the target and that animal will die every time!!!! I read it on the internet so it must be true!

Depends on who's doing the shooting.

Ok, I lose, you win. I don't know anything about all this.

I'm sure it does depend on who is doing the shooting, lets see there are a thousand average joes who couldn't hit the broad side of a barn a 200 yards per the 1 you who shot an elk in the brain stem at 523 yards or whatever it was. YOU and people like you are an outlier... a big one.

Didn't say that at all, you know a great deal an I think you know i respect that, but you sure fall into the "to a hammer everything is a nail" category. If your arguing the more animals of any kind are shot at +400 than -400 yards then i think your kidding yourself or just ignoring the facts. In the end the differences are marginal at best. I would agree with what Nog posted, but i know you cant do that simply for the fact that he posted it.

And i know I'm gonna catch flack about that hammer comment because of my partitions, but i don't really see why. I have said repeatedly no i wouldn't punch paper with them or recommend them for long range, but in the vast majority of hunting situations i do believe they are superior(which is what i use them for).

As far as I know, wby and nosler didn't do anything different than the all mighty 7rem mag, there is nothing keeping you from sticking high bc bullets in wby or nosler calibers. Would you argue that given great bc more velocity is better?

I would just get a new stock...skip both the .270 and 6.5 unless you just really want another caliber. If that is the case, I would still keep the .260 and get a 6.5 or 7-08 in an entirely new rifle.

I have a 260 and a 270, and almost always hunt and punch paper with the 260. Less recoil, and the 260 is a more accurate rifle. That said, my deer and hog shooting is usually 300 yards or less, and at that range I don’t really think that BC is significant. What is significant is that the 270 will push a 140 gr bullet to 3000 FPS, where a 6.5 Creedmore can’t. But, if we consider the 6.5-06 or the 6.5-284, you get the velocity and the improved BC, though at 300 yards or less, bigger BC means little.

Bottom line is that, at ‘normal’ hunting ranges, the 270 is a bigger hammer. And still, I hunt with the 260.

That's why I would do. Pretty easy to put some spacers in the stock and lengthen it up a bit.


Side note, if you ever cut a stock down to fit a kid, drill a couple 1/4" holes in the stock first, then shorten the stock with cuts about 1/2"-3/4" thick. Use 1/4" dowel as pins, that way you can easily line the pieces back up and add them in as the kid grows.

It is a very interesting phenomenon that the 6.5x55 and .260 Rem languished in virtual obscurity for so many years, then the 6.5 Creedmoor came along and looks like it is well on its way to becoming King of The Mid Range Cartridges.

I remember reading an article by Ray Sasser in the DMN well over a decade ago touting the .260 Rem - complete with data - and wondering why it wasn’t way more popular.

Interesting idea.

From my understanding Remington has always done a very poor job of marketing their new stuff. Much similar to why the 280 never was popular and the WSM's are much more popular than the RSAUM's.

when you are poor and have 4 kids you learn to improvise.

I think that is true - and always been a big rap on Remington.
The .243 Win and 6mm Rem (.244) came out at almost the same time. Remington marketed the 6mm as a varmint round, while Winchester marketed the .243 as a deer round. (Their ammo choices reflected this. Also didn’t help that Rem went with the mm designation.)

We all know how that turned out.

That is a good idea.

No kidding - this is what I should've done with my 10/22.

Just because you are wrong, doesn't mean you need get upset and start calling names.

Sure high BC bullets will load in Weatherby and Nosler brass, but that would hurt their speed, and they advertise speed.

The 6.5X55 and .260 Rem did not do as well as the 6.5 Creedmoor only because factory ammo was not available to shoot those cartridges to their potential. You had, and still have to be a hand loader. If youare, they can produce excellent results.

Hornady developed the cartridge to have a low ES, be efficient, provided their load recipe on the box, and gave everyone several bullet choices. One of which was a heavy for caliber, high BC bullet for the guys that want to hit things far away. And the rest, as they say, is history.

I also think the 260 was marginally before its time, the tactical scope with knobs craze had not taken off when it was created. Had it I think Remington would have had a different experience with it. Hornady has undoubtedly done a better job of making good ammo and making it available.