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#7028462 - 01/07/18 02:50 PM Itís time for my first AR
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Got a $700-$800 budget for an AR. Going to build it. My boss has the vices and all the tools to put one together. I know some of what I want. I intend for this to be a target rifle. Thinking 20Ē heavy barrel (prefer stainless). No quad rail, but I like the key mod style hand guards. It will be a .223. Good trigger.

Can you build a sub moa rifle length AR like I want for under $800? That doesnít include optics.
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#7028487 - 01/07/18 03:15 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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I think you can, based on the fact that for half that much you can buy an assembled upper and lower. Surely your budget has enough room for a better barrel and trigger...but then again, believing ain't the same as knowing.
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#7028723 - 01/07/18 05:47 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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looking at match barrels right now. There are a lot of brands, not sure which to look at most. Iíve been recommended criterion on another site, but there are lots of match grade barrels out there. White oak armament is one that caught my eye. What do yíall prefer?
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#7028745 - 01/07/18 05:58 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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sure you can, as said before get a good trigger and good barrel with a target crown. Build your loads to the chamber of the barrel you get. Definitely use a free float forearm/handguard!


Edited by bronco71 (01/07/18 06:01 PM)

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#7028759 - 01/07/18 06:08 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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Check out CDNN. They have some great deals going on right now on AR stuff.


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#7028768 - 01/07/18 06:16 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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I've had good experiences with ballistic advantage barrels. I would not go heavy bull barrel in 20" it will be very front heavy unless you go with something like the MagPul PRS stock which is heavy itself but even then it will still be front heavy and you'll have a 18 pound rifle before you know it.

Look at VLTOR Freedom rails they're my new go to for keymod.

Geiselle trigger for 2 stage or CMC drop in for single stage. I have both and both are great.

White Oak makes a great barrel too.
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#7028789 - 01/07/18 06:37 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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I've solved your barrel dilemma

https://www.larue.com/products/5-56-stealth-barrel-k/

If you want whole kit:

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit/

You still need a lower.

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#7029567 - 01/08/18 10:38 AM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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I'm a big fan of Shilen barrels. But a 20" .223 Wylde will set you back at least $400 and maybe $480 depending on what you order. If you get the $400 barrel and go with about as cheap as you can find parts for the rest of the gun, have a crappy stock trigger I figure you end up at about $860 for the build. And you still need to spend another $150 to get a decent trigger.

That should pretty easily shoot sub MOA, but with a milspec trigger you will have to work for it.

Realistically I think you need to up your budget a bit and figure on at least $1,000 for the build.

That Larue Ultimate kit that tenyearsgone posted above with a 20" 5.56 barrel comes in at $792, figure $75 for a stripped lower and that's a pretty decent rifle that is just over your price point.
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#7029583 - 01/08/18 10:50 AM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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White oak, criterion, kreiger barrels is what Iíd look at. WO will run $275, the other two are $100 more. Figure $150 for a trigger and youíre at $425-$525. Iíd say your budget is perfectly attainable.
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#7029608 - 01/08/18 11:02 AM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: tenyearsgone]
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Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
I've solved your barrel dilemma

https://www.larue.com/products/5-56-stealth-barrel-k/

If you want whole kit:

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit/

You still need a lower.


I really like that kit. My biggest hang up is the barrel isnít stainless. Which I know is silly, but I guess we want what we want.
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#7029633 - 01/08/18 11:11 AM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
Tff caribou Offline
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Just broke t to my wife that my dream rifle will be closer to $1100-$1200 and her response was, hey, as long as itís the one you want, and you buy it in stages, thatís fine.

Thatís a good wife gentleman.
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#7029675 - 01/08/18 11:41 AM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
I've solved your barrel dilemma

https://www.larue.com/products/5-56-stealth-barrel-k/

If you want whole kit:

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit/

You still need a lower.


I really like that kit. My biggest hang up is the barrel isnít stainless. Which I know is silly, but I guess we want what we want.


Dude, don't pass up such a good kit on a technicality. It is made out of steel though. Rearden Steel to be exact. I've used three of them, and easily get 1/4 moa.

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#7029690 - 01/08/18 11:51 AM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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Check out ARP for your barrel http://www.ar15performance.com/5_56_223_wylde
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#7029707 - 01/08/18 12:10 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou]
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Rearden steel? Mmmm...read Ayn Rand much?
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#7029714 - 01/08/18 12:15 PM Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Rearden steel? Mmmm...read Ayn Rand much?

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They were out of unobtainium.

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