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#7027152 - 01/06/18 10:23 AM Pulsar Trail
fr3db3ar Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 02/08/15
Posts: 374
Loc: Holland, MI
Let's talk about it. Who here is experiencing poi shifts? I know it doesn't get as cold for you boys as it does for me. I don't know if that's the issue or not. Every time I go to shot mine at 200 it's moved. Still trying to figure out why when the factory can't replicate the issue.

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#7027222 - 01/06/18 11:37 AM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
RiverRider Offline
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Registered: 11/11/07
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Loc: Wise Co.
I have one that still hasn't been properly wrung out due to decisions to change up the rifle, time constraints, this past deer season, etc. and a passle of other excuses...but it WILL happen soon. I'd just ask you this: how sure are you that the mounting is rock solid?
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#7027438 - 01/06/18 03:35 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
Midwaytmm Offline
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Registered: 09/14/16
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Iíve got some as loners that get used heavily. Have had no problems with them. Several guys that hunt with us on regular basis use their own, Ive not heard anybody mention any problem.

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#7027443 - 01/06/18 03:45 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
RiverRider Offline
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"Every time I go to shot mine at 200 it's moved. "

What do you mean by this? How do you know it has moved?

Does it happen only in extreme cold?

How do you know your ammunition holds up to extreme cold and isn't the cause of what you're experiencing?
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#7027854 - 01/06/18 10:28 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
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Woodsman

Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 146
Loc: Appleby, TX
I've sold a lot of Trails this year, some to guys up north who tell me they are hunting in 0 degree weather and so far I haven't had a single one report a problem with any point of impact shift. I've seen it mentioned in a few FB groups but no one first hand has mentioned it to me.

I'd love to know more, I don't even see how it's possible with a digital reticle. Not saying it's not happening, I just can't figure out exactly what could be the root of the problem?

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#7027904 - 01/06/18 11:40 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
SapperTitan Offline
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Loc: Killeen/Ft Hood, TX
Gotta wonder if people are using this POI shift as an excuse for missing lol
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#7028962 - 01/07/18 08:47 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
Double Naught Spy Offline
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Registered: 05/18/11
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Loc: Forestburg, Montague Cnty, TX
I would do my testing at 100 and not 200. Less chance for wind and such to affect the bullet in flight.

Cold weather certainly can cause a chance in POI if you zeroed in much warmer weather. Velocity will be off as well.

What mount are you using?
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#7028979 - 01/07/18 08:58 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
Rob M Offline
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Registered: 04/13/11
Posts: 781
Loc: Sanger, TX
Iíve had zero issues with mine. Owned the xq38 and xp38.
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#7029048 - 01/07/18 09:39 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: Rob M]
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Loc: Fort Worth
Originally Posted By: Rob M
Iíve had zero issues with mine. Owned the xq38 and xp38.


I had to read this a couple of times and then it sank in.....

The original poster has issues with zero

And you have zero issues

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#7033603 - 01/10/18 07:36 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
fr3db3ar Offline
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Registered: 02/08/15
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Loc: Holland, MI
just wondering what my friend in Texas were experiencing after all the talk I see on Facebook.

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#7033679 - 01/10/18 08:19 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
RiverRider Offline
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What group are you reading, Fred?
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#7033867 - 01/10/18 11:29 PM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: RiverRider]
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Woodsman

Registered: 03/18/11
Posts: 146
Loc: Appleby, TX
Originally Posted By: RiverRider
What group are you reading, Fred?


I don't spend much time on FB nor in the FB groups but there was one huge thread in one of them groups....I can't remember which and it devolved into nothing but a Pulsar bashing IMO. Everyone and their brother was talking about missing hogs and "it has to because of the POI shift....". And no one that I've seen has credibly claimed more than a 2-3" shift, so I'm thinking, even on a head shot on a hog, 3" any direction shouldn't cause you to completely miss on a normal size hog head.

And to be clear, I'm not saying it might not be happening and I'm not saying it might not be the scope but there are a lot of guys throwing around a lot of stuff that is extremely speculative. I spoke with the Pulsar tech dept about it today while asking another question and they said they have been made aware of it and are absolutely trying to re-create the problem to determine if it's the scope or not.

From a couple conversations I've had with some serious reloaders, they think it's more likely the ammo than the optic. I'm not a reloader or an ammo expert, so I'll leave that to someone smarter than me. It will be interesting to see how it pans out. I talked to 2 customers in Illinois who both said they were hunting in 0 to 8 degrees and they experienced no problems.
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#7033961 - 01/11/18 06:59 AM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
Midwaytmm Offline
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Registered: 09/14/16
Posts: 297
That seems like an easy to replicate problem. Put rifle in vice and shot it. Record the outcome, make note of coordinates . Put rifle in freezer for 20min. Repeat process. Wouldnít surprise me if whole thing was started , by somebody that was getting paid, by a pulsar competitor. Iíve watched this kind of stuff for a good while long before I came here . I assume thereís a good bit of money in it, and people get funny about making money . All of these things can have problems. So not out of realm of possibility. I would look at problems in following order.

Shooter
Mount....using cheap, non QD, just like an high dollar QD
Ammo. Luck gunner, ect, sells cheap ammo, results are identical
Shooter
Software problem

Seems like it would be very easy to document problem in todayís high tech, record everything world .

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#7033964 - 01/11/18 07:02 AM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
Midwaytmm Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 09/14/16
Posts: 297
Also worth noting, thereís really no possible way to have a QD mount, that is an absolute return to zero . Very very close for high quality machining, but not absolute.

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#7033974 - 01/11/18 07:08 AM Re: Pulsar Trail [Re: fr3db3ar]
Midwaytmm Offline
Bird Dog

Registered: 09/14/16
Posts: 297
If anybody could point me to the conversation Iíd like to read it. Donít have a Facebook, but my bride does. I assume you have to look for a certain person/group on there

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