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#7027119 - 01/06/18 09:45 AM Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable
603Country Offline
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Registered: 07/03/12
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Someone just asked if Vortex scopes were any good - in another post. Iíve had one of just about every scope type I ever owned die. That does not include any of the serious money scopes, like NF or S&B. So my question, which is directed to those of you that have used and tested the big money turreted scopes, is to ask you which scopes in your experience and opinion are the most durable under heavy turret use. I know itís just opinions, but I am interested in what you long distance guys think. And you can list and rank them if you wish and if you actually have the knowledge.

Not asking about glass quality. This is only about toughness and durability.

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#7027135 - 01/06/18 09:59 AM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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The scope I have tortured the most, for going on 6 years of weekly use, is the SS 5-20X. It looks like it went through a garbage disposal, with all the dings, scratches, and missing anodizing. It has been on an unknown number of rifles, all of mine, and loaned to customers. It has never had to be sent in for repair.

Had a Gen I PST, and had to send it in. Sold it, and the next buyer had to send it in. He sold it, and the next buyer had to send it in. I know this because they are all THF members.

Bushnell Elite ERS 3.5-21X has held up well. It too has several scars.

When I had a Burris XTR II on loan from Burris for a year, it never failed. I got the impression it was built to last.

The NF ATACR I have now, well it is built on the decades old repuation for Night Force toughness. I've had it 8 months, lots of rounds fired or spotted, and not a hiccup. I suspect I won't ever have to send it in. At least not for anything that is Night Force's fault. If it tumbles down a canyon, that's on me.
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#7027208 - 01/06/18 11:19 AM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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Bushnell Elite LRHS is bulletproof

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#7027227 - 01/06/18 11:40 AM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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7.5 years with NF NSX I would say #1
10 years with Leupold M4 #2
2 years with Burris XTR II unsure yet but has not failed me so far, the first one was good enough I bought a second one.

All are tools that get used, but it I could only have 1 it would be a NF NSX or ATCAR.

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#7027387 - 01/06/18 02:22 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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Bushnell Elite is tough. Burris seems to be pretty stout, too. Nightforce is hard to beat.
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#7027421 - 01/06/18 02:58 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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I have 2 years with a S&B PMII, 1 year w/ a Bushnell Elite, a 6 months w/ a NF NXS. I would say I donít have enough time with any of them to provide substantiated feedback regarding your question. I have abused the S&B way more & by abuse I mean accidentally banging it around on rocks, tree limbs, the ground, etc while hunting and taking shots. The other two I just havenít been as careless with (not that I am intentionally careless with the S&B). All 3 have held up without issue. It wasnít my scope, but I shot a Nightforce NXS after it had been beat violently on a counter top as a demonstration and then remounted on a rifle.. Even though it wasnít mine I wanted to cry. It was flawless & held zero.. I canít say therefore which is more durable. The only feedback I can provide is that the feel of the S&B is nothing short of a tank in build quality and weight. Lol. I donít doubt the NF either after witnessing what I have seen regarding the abuse it Can take and still get the job done.. The Bushnell Elite has been babied on the 6.5 but I donít have any concerns about it either. Time will tell for all of them as this is true for most anything however me using them doesnít compare to the abuse seen by military/LE or more avid competition shooters and hunters than myself. Just my .02.

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#7027448 - 01/06/18 03:53 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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Well, that brings up another question. What does the military use these days? I have no idea.

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#7027494 - 01/06/18 04:49 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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Probably still some Mark 4's out there. Some original NF F-1 3-15X, Schmitt and Bender, and no telling what other NF NXS scopes are still afield.

Depends on unit. Your Army or Marine Corps Sniper might have limited choices. Seal 6 might get anything they please.
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#7027517 - 01/06/18 05:14 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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Navy just awarded Leupold contract for M6 and Marines M8. The Army new SASS has a S&B. The Secret Squirrel Units run what ever they want.

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#7027575 - 01/06/18 06:06 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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Secret Squirrel?
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#7027582 - 01/06/18 06:31 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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Shhh. No one can talk about that.
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#7027610 - 01/06/18 06:48 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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I didnít see no squirrel.
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#7028193 - 01/07/18 09:06 AM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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That is the way it is supposed to be, move along nothing to see here.

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#7028250 - 01/07/18 10:00 AM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: 603Country]
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I have a ATACR gen one that has never failed me. Nightforce is known for there excellent turret system.

I have been behind a X5i for almost 3 years now and it has never failed me. It has fallen out of my high rack 3 times landing on the scope twice, donít ask me how, and never lost zero or tracking. The new Swarovski turret system is awesome and I actually like it better than the NF just based on feel. The turrets are very audible and you can feel every click. They also have a nice revelation counter and a below zero feature if you need it.
https://www.swarovskioptik.com/hunting/x5i-c200507

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#7029061 - 01/07/18 09:52 PM Re: Which scopes (turret type) really are the most durable [Re: fast88]
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Lots of good mentions here. Steiner T5Xi is one that seems to be under-rated. Top notch build quality and optics, and you can find them used for much cheaper than the top-end options that cost $2k+. I've seen them around $1300-$1400, and you'd be hard-pressed to get better bang for your buck. The SCR reticle is pretty good.

I'm holding off for when Tangent Theta puts Minox's MR4 reticle in their 5-25, then I'm selling my firstborn to buy it.

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