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#7016379 - 12/29/17 08:18 PM 65 gr Gamekings in a 223
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Who's tried em and what was/is your opinion? Santa Claus left me 300 of em, so I'm about to work up a load for my 22" 9 twist bolt gun. I plan on starting with Varget and CCI primers in Nosler cases. My Sierra manual shows data for an AR but not a bolt gun for the 65 but it should be enough to work off of. I don't think I can shoe horn enough Varget in the case to get in trouble. Hopefully if I can get it up around 3100fps it will shoot there. Atleast on paper that would be a potent load in a 223.
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#7016409 - 12/29/17 08:49 PM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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I have a sack of them too. Never tried them on deer or hogs, but iíd expect them to do pretty well since I have used the 63 gr Sierra on hogs and a few deer to good effect.

In my first 223 barrel, they shot great over Varget, but I ran out of Varget during the Obama nightmare. I switched to H335, and that works well too, though I think I got slightly better accuracy with Varget (but that was a different barrel). Both barrels had a 9 twist.

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#7016446 - 12/29/17 09:13 PM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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I love H-Varget, it works so well in a long list of cartridges. If you handed me that rifle/ bullet/ powder combo, I would keep stepping up until I found pressure, so I would know the limit. My bet is it will like a full case.

IMR-8208 is also something to look into. Tiny kernals that are less likely to get compressed.
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#7016456 - 12/29/17 09:25 PM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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Never used them but had good luck with Benchmark in that weight range in 223
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#7016491 - 12/29/17 09:49 PM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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I have an AR that shoots them to 1/2 moa over 24 gr of H4895. I've killed pigs, deer, javelina, and foxes with it, it's my go to bullet.

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#7016832 - 12/30/17 07:43 AM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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I shoot em out of AR and they shoot great. I use h335.

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#7017100 - 12/30/17 11:50 AM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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I used the 65 grain Sierra GK in my son's Tikka 223 varmint 17" barrel (cut down) for hunting. It did ok, for a 223 at least. He shot 2 deer with it, and neither gave a pass through. Bullet was recovered inside animal, and was fragmented with some good expansion signs. Both deer went down, but ran a decent ways. I didn't like the lack of penetration, so I switched to an 87 grain SP bullet, the same bullet I use in my 223 subs. That bullet gave full penetration, but minimal expansion. I was using my bulk Lovex powder, so I don't have any Varget data. But load it up near max, and it will shoot good. I think the 65 grain was running 2850 or 2900 fps.
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#7017709 - 12/30/17 09:25 PM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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Thanks all for the replies. I'll report back what I come up with.
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#7017751 - 12/30/17 10:05 PM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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I've had nothing but excellent results with the 65gr SGK on coyotes, hogs, and deer with 9" and faster twists. I use H335.

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#7017762 - 12/30/17 10:14 PM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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I like em. From memory, I think I load them over 24.5gr fr RL15. They do a great job.

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#7019454 - 01/01/18 01:09 AM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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They donít work in my .220 swift with a 1 in 9 barrel.

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#7019545 - 01/01/18 07:37 AM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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Well darn, I would have thought the bullet would have worked in a 9 twist Swift. I considered a new barrel on my Swift to be able to shoot that bullet and others that wouldnít stabilize in my 14 twist barrel.

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#7019564 - 01/01/18 08:02 AM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: 603Country]
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Originally Posted By: 603Country
Well darn, I would have thought the bullet would have worked in a 9 twist Swift. I considered a new barrel on my Swift to be able to shoot that bullet and others that wouldnít stabilize in my 14 twist barrel.


Might I suggest a 1:7.7 twist.

You can run up to 80 gr bullets.
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#7019709 - 01/01/18 09:45 AM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: sbushee]
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Originally Posted By: sbushee
They donít work in my .220 swift with a 1 in 9 barrel.


Are you sure? A 65 grain will easily stabilize in a 9" twist barrel, especially at the 220 swift speeds. Most 220 Swift barrels will be a 12 or 14" twist, which will not stabilize this 65 grain bullet. I would put money on it that your swift is not a 9" twist, if it won't stabilize a 65 grain.
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#7019780 - 01/01/18 10:33 AM Re: 65 gr Gamekings in a 223 [Re: Smokey Bear]
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When I tried several heavier bullets in my 220 (14 twist) a year or so ago, only the 63gr Sierra SMP would stabilize. That wasnít new info, since I had used it since the 80ís. I sure wanted the Nosler 64 gr BSB or the 60 gr Partition to stabilize, but neither would. The Partition was closest, since it would group at 100 yards in certain temperatures. As for the 65 gr Sierra GK, I never actually hit paper with it at 100 yards, and the target stand was 2 feet by 4 feet. I have no idea where they went.

My Swift has a 20 inch barrel. Maybe, since the Partition was close to stabilizing, if I had a 26 inch barrel and pushed the bullet faster, it might stabilize. Itís a moot point though, since I like the 20 inch barrel.

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