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#7014358 - 12/28/17 07:59 AM Interesting article on SFP flexibility
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I ran across this on another forum and thought some of you guys might find it interesting and informative. Based on this article, I'd conclude that SFP scopes offer a little flexibilty and versitility that FFP does not. I guess the choice would boil down to what you're used to and what you're doing.


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#7014393 - 12/28/17 08:36 AM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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#7014400 - 12/28/17 08:40 AM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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I love 2nd FP because I will know my range (range finder) with time to dial. I don't need to use my scope to range target.

I'll leave this for the "real" snipers.

plus, I don't like the reticle getting bigger as magnification goes up.

again, this is just me, I'm no "operator" just a old, fat, man who likes to shoot stuff

i'm sure all the "snipers" and "operators" on here will be along to "straighten" me out hammer
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#7014418 - 12/28/17 08:50 AM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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The article is not about superiority of one over the other...it's just about some options SFP offers. I figure it's like most things---you give up one thing to gain another.

I posted this to present the other side of the discussion because SFP has taken such a beating here in this forum. I'm not selling it, I'm just showing it and it's free to whomever wants it.
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#7015128 - 12/28/17 07:28 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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I did not read the article, but I will comment.

Here are your elevation corrections:

200 .5
300 1.0
400 1.8
500 2.6
600 3.6
700 4.7
800 5.8

Want to hold that? Ok, those numbers will ONLY be correct at maximum magnification.
Plan on dialing it? Then it is a non-issue.

Here's your wind hold for 5 mph @ 90°

200 .1
300 .2
400 .3
500 .4
600 .5
700 .6
800 .7

Those numbers are ONLY correct at maximum magnification. Plan to dial it? Sure. Oops, now it gusted, dial more. Done dialing wind? Cool, the gust quit, dial it back down. Done dialing wind, again? Cool, now it's gusting again. Get the picture?

Too much mirage to see what you're doing? Turn down the magnification. Oh, wait, now all your hold value (wind and/or elevation) have just changed.

I've let my customers, that show up with SFP decide for themselves. All I do is get them down the range dialing elevation, then start over holding, then turn up the heat with challenges. I can't remember any of them not saying "well, I'm getting rid of this and going to FFP".
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#7015166 - 12/28/17 07:57 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I did not read the article, but I will comment.

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#7015186 - 12/28/17 08:06 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I did not read the article, but I will comment.



What?

I've deal with both focal planes for enough rounds, I'm pretty sure it contains no new information for me. There aren't that many moving parts, so to speak.
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#7015218 - 12/28/17 08:25 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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I'm not a big fan of SFP because from an optical standpoint, it's almost impossible for them to not have zero shift when zooming and changing parallax due to where the reticle is in the optical design. FFP does not have this issue. The shift may not be huge, but it is there and it will impact you for precision shooting.

For me:

hunting --> SFP
precision or long range --> FFP
all-around --> FFP with good reticle

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#7015281 - 12/28/17 09:13 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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What they bring up in the article doesn’t seem nearly useful enough to trump the advantages of FFP. Not for me, anyway.
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#7015851 - 12/29/17 12:22 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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I need to buy some good 7-08 ammo and come out for a ffp primer
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#7015964 - 12/29/17 02:32 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I need to buy some good 7-08 ammo and come out for a ffp primer


I'm not sure but I think you got banned for using the "S" word, not once but twice. trout
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#7016177 - 12/29/17 05:46 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: OkieDokie]
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Originally Posted By: OkieDokie
Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I need to buy some good 7-08 ammo and come out for a ffp primer


I'm not sure but I think you got banned for using the "S" word, not once but twice. trout


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#7016201 - 12/29/17 06:05 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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I've never seen a scope that functions as described in the article. Every scope I've used had the reticle calibrated to be used at the highest magnification.

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#7016382 - 12/29/17 08:29 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
Originally Posted By: OkieDokie
Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
I need to buy some good 7-08 ammo and come out for a ffp primer


I'm not sure but I think you got banned for using the "S" word, not once but twice. trout


confused2


You used the word sniper, I don’t JG likes that word.
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#7016444 - 12/29/17 09:09 PM Re: Interesting article on SFP flexibility [Re: RiverRider]
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I do not have a tab, never will. I've shot with, and against them, in targets. But, I've never had to line up on a human, and have yet to had to worry about someone shooting back.
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