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#7012876 - 12/27/17 06:52 AM Night Vision or Thermal
cah2873 Offline
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Registered: 04/01/15
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Loc: Jacksonville, TX
I currently have a set of ATN Voyager Night Vision Gen 2 Monoculars that I use to spot hogs and coyotes. However once I spot them, I have to turn on a light to shoot them. I have been looking at Night Vision Scopes and also lower end Thermal Scopes. I do not have to have one with all of the bells and whistles and some of them are stating that they have. I just need one to spot and shoot. Do they make one like this?

Also, does anyone have any recommendations on what they are using or a set up similar to mine?

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#7012914 - 12/27/17 07:35 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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I assume that if you are spotlighting, that you are shooting inside 100 yards. You could get by with some thermals that will work well enough for that purpose (and then some) such as the Pulsar Apex XQ38 or (better) XQ50. They are in short supply right now, but the FLIR PTS233 would work for your needs and have more options, but I like the Pulsar units better.

With that said, spotting with your rifle is a pain in the butt and can be a safety hazard, depending on your circumstances.
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#7012929 - 12/27/17 07:47 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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Pulsar thermals the way to go

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#7012934 - 12/27/17 07:55 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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Flir really is the brand in thermal imaging gear.
Please feel free to give us a call to discuss which Flir optic would be best for you. They make everything from a simple monocular to riflescopes.
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#7013015 - 12/27/17 09:06 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
cah2873 Offline
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Registered: 04/01/15
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Loc: Jacksonville, TX
Are there any other options that may be a bit cheaper?

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#7013030 - 12/27/17 09:19 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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ATN makes some less expensive night vision rifle scopes that work fine. I have an older one that is night only and a newer one that is day and night.

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#7013071 - 12/27/17 09:41 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
Pootie Offline
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Loc: SE Texas
If I understand correctly, you are looking for a scope. Digital is the least expensive route. Photon XT (B&W) can be had for around $400, throw in another $50 for an improved IR source for distance, and you would be very functional to 150 - 200 yds. Thermal is nice (I like it), and costly.

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#7013296 - 12/27/17 11:49 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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The Photon digital NV scope should be useful in the circumstances you describe. I have the original model, and I find it's useful range is really about 80-100 yards max. If you had a VERY good IR light with it that range could probably be extended. However, what I believe you'll find is that it's actually just a gateway drug to thermal. If you can swing a thermal weapon sight I'd go that route. As DNS mentioned, the Pulsar XQ38 or XQ50 are definitely good choices. They're (in my opinion) not just an entry-level unit that you'll want to retire in a year or two. They'll do the job for a while. If you find you're getting out 20+ times a year (I just made up that number - it has no data backing it) you might want something higher end.

The above is just my personal opinion, but it's worth at least twice what you're paying for it! smile
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#7013602 - 12/27/17 04:36 PM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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I used to use Digital Night vision until I got a thermal monocular. That convinced me to go for a thermal scope. I was spotting lots of animals with the thermal monocular and when I would look for them with the digital NV I could not find them.

If you are looking for a basic but very good entry level thermal, look at the Pulsar Core RXQ30V Thermal Riflescope. You can often get if with a 10% discount from OpticsPlanet with free shipping and no tax. So it will be about $1720
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#7013706 - 12/27/17 06:06 PM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
Pootie Offline
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As dT and HS above point out, digital is a gateway drug, but it will get you started.

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#7013836 - 12/27/17 07:40 PM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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If you only do one thing... get some form of thermal monocular for spotting.
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#7014086 - 12/27/17 09:59 PM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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Registered: 03/18/11
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Loc: Appleby, TX
Lots of good advice and opinions expressed in this thread for sure. As you can see there are a lot of different ways you can go. I think a lot of this is going to come down to your budget. I also agree with those that say consider a thermal monocular for spotting. That's a game changer in my opinion.

If you have some time, give me a call and I'll be glad to answer any questions and throw out my 2 cents. No hard sales, no pressure to buy, just free advice. I'm just over in Nacogdoches County. I sold some thermal to a couple guys in Jacksonville over the last 2-3 weeks.

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#7014315 - 12/28/17 07:12 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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Go thermal if you can afford it. I highly recommend the Pulsar XQ50.
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#7014591 - 12/28/17 11:20 AM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: cah2873]
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There are 2 XQ50s, the Apex model and the Trail model. The Apex is less expensive and has less features, but I think it is one of the best bang for your bucks (hmmm, maybe that should be 'bang for your hogs') out there.
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#7014692 - 12/28/17 12:55 PM Re: Night Vision or Thermal [Re: Pootie]
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Originally Posted By: Pootie
As dT and HS above point out, digital is a gateway drug, but it will get you started.


It is definitely a gateway that will end up having you buy twice if you ever have the opportunity to use a thermal.

Save your money and get thermal. You will not regret it.
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