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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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12/24/17 06:47 PM
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Use blue picture on a few things mostly just bases
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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How many knew this about thread lockers...
"Because electrochemical activity is one of the two triggers that cause polymerization of the threadlocker fluid, care must be taken to avoid contaminating the entire container of threadlocker with threadlocker that has had contact with metal, otherwise the material in the container may polymerize."
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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It's definitely some weird stuff. There's a good Wikipedia article on the development of loctite...interesting.
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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Good discussion of a topic where there is no perfect answer, with the exception being Loctite Red or other premanent thread locking fluid. It's not a good solution unless you believe you will NEVER need to remove a screw. And never is a very long time.
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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12/24/17 09:00 PM
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Loctite reccomends reducing toque by 20%, which is I'm sure a standard / general answer. When I tested the friction factor & calculated a K value for purple with my specific base screws for my rem LTR I came up with an actual 12.525% less. Loctite used to never give a K value for their product nor a recommendation for torque. All they would say is to test on your own and calculate a K value right before your application. I would guess it was because of legal reasons and because their product changes viscosity under different temperatures. I use blue and drop torque down 10-15% at room temp and haven't had any issues so far. No problems removing screws either... so far.
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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12/24/17 10:11 PM
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Good info. I use blue Loctite but I never thought about changing torque when using it. When you wade through the BS there are some pretty smart dudes hanging out here.
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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12/24/17 10:29 PM
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Low strength Loctite, and still torque to spec, on base to action, and ring cap screws. That's what I do.
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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12/24/17 11:34 PM
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Re: Loctite - Good or bad
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FWIW - I worked in the defense industry for 17 years with many brilliant engineers where it was established all fasteners required a locking mechanism with a Loctite type thread locker being much preferred over locking washers. Some of my airborne systems had in excess of 1,500 fasteners. I ran both a repair depot and production factory and will attest to thread locker being critical, especially for small screws. It is for this reason I always use Loctite blue or purple on all firearms. Proper torque is not enough for these small screws based upon my experience along with a lot of engineering analysis I've seen.
I've not had any difficulties removing scope rings or bases using blue or purple.
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