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Re: What should I get? [Re: TAT] #7008357 12/23/17 07:45 AM
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Having grown up on variable scopes, I have finally learned the value of fixed range scopes that are of quality build. Consistency is a heckuva good thing.

As far as long range shooting... Is it one shot, cold bore? Or is it repeated shots on a hot rifle?

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So I bought a Remington 700 in 6.5 CM for 700 and some change. put night Force Base and badger rings on it for around the 1000.00 mark. I haven't had time to really shoot a bunch of groups but after sighting it in I did shoot a 5 shot group at 3/4 moa at 100 yards. Next on the list is either a McMillan or Manners stock and haven't decided on a new trigger but hopefully that 3/4 will tighten up a bit.


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So I bought a Remington 700 in 6.5 CM for 700 and some change. put night Force Base and badger rings on it for around the 1000.00 mark. I haven't had time to really shoot a bunch of groups but after sighting it in I did shoot a 5 shot group at 3/4 moa at 100 yards. Next on the list is either a McMillan or Manners stock and haven't decided on a new trigger but hopefully that 3/4 will tighten up a bit.



THIS, is a GREAT plan, great as is but with so much potential as budgets grow.


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What rifles and scopes do you already have?

Do you have reloading equipment?


I don't have any reloading equipment.

As far as guns I have a good bit of different rifles. Plenty of 243's , 270's, 7mm-08 and 308's. And keep going. I do have a remington VTR I got a helluva deal on a few years ago. I don't have anything in 6.5 creedmoore though. I'm thinking this is what I'll go with.

The grand is to put towards a rifle and then spend some money on good glass and base(if needed) and rings.


My suggestion is to use that money towards a really good scope like a Nightforce ATACR or NXS, and put it on the 308. Buy four or five cases of good quality match ammo, and a lesson. I’ve not used Chad’s ammo but have no doubt it would be good. Black Hills makes good ammo at a fair price. ABM is the best off the shelf ammo, but a bit more expensive.

A great scope on a good rifle is a good starting point. Adding reloading equipment will pay nice dividends as well.

One other suggestion, depending on the make and model, either the 243 or 308 could be trued, rebarreled to 6.5 CM and bedded with the $1000 and shoot better than off the shelf options for the same price. There are good factory ammo options for it as well.

FJG,

since he does not reload, 7-08 is not a good option due to lack of match ammo options.

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What rifles and scopes do you already have?

Do you have reloading equipment?


I don't have any reloading equipment.

As far as guns I have a good bit of different rifles. Plenty of 243's , 270's, 7mm-08 and 308's. And keep going. I do have a remington VTR I got a helluva deal on a few years ago. I don't have anything in 6.5 creedmoore though. I'm thinking this is what I'll go with.

The grand is to put towards a rifle and then spend some money on good glass and base(if needed) and rings.


My suggestion is to use that money towards a really good scope like a Nightforce ATACR or NXS, and put it on the 308. Buy four or five cases of good quality match ammo, and a lesson. I’ve not used Chad’s ammo but have no doubt it would be good. Black Hills makes good ammo at a fair price. ABM is the best off the shelf ammo, but a bit more expensive.

A great scope on a good rifle is a good starting point. Adding reloading equipment will pay nice dividends as well.

One other suggestion, depending on the make and model, either the 243 or 308 could be trued, rebarreled to 6.5 CM and bedded with the $1000 and shoot better than off the shelf options for the same price. There are good factory ammo options for it as well.

FJG,

since he does not reload, 7-08 is not a good option due to lack of match ammo options.



He sent me a PM last night, and we had a good conversation. My recommendation was to hire Chad to develop a load, and use what is left over for a scope. He said it would hold 1" at 100, and I told him that was plenty good to start with.

It is unfortunate that ammo manufacturers do not load for the potential of the 7mm-08. At least not what I saw for sale on Midway.


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Just talked to Chad and recommended he start building high BC 7mm-08 ammo, loaded with H-Varget. He said "consider it done".


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG

It is unfortunate that ammo manufacturers do not load for the potential of the 7mm-08. At least not what I saw for sale on Midway.


Yes, and because of this it now gets overlooked as a long range round by the mainstream that does not hand load. Seems like it's always been marketed more as a short action 270 Win. When Winchester started building the Model 70 again in SC, I wanted Featherweight with the classic Fleur-de-lis stock. Always wanted one. Being a short action guy, I bought the 7-08 instead of the 270 Win. It's been more of a safe queen but I really need to take it out and hunt with it some day.



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ruger American predator 6.5 creed

put the leftover $$ plus another grand and buy a GREAT scope and rings. it will do anything you will need

if its not fancy enough, take it and have it Cerakoted


He mentioned he did not have a dedicated long-range rig. While I value the Ruger for what it is, the Predator is not a LR rig capable of repeated shooting over a short course of time. Additionally, the stock is sub-par and the trigger lacks.


its as good as any RPR, anyway, anyone who wants to play the real LR Game with a $1,000 budget is dreaming. I just wanted to get him something he can hit steel at 500 easily. He did not say repeated shooting either. I guess you suggest a Tikka with a kortex scope?


No, at that price point I’d look at the RPR, the Bergara HMR, Rem 700 5R in addition to the CTR. The Bergara is an awesome deal for what you get. If I hadn’t been in a time crunch I likely would have bought one.


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Re: What should I get? [Re: Kthnx] #7009442 12/24/17 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted By: Kthnx
So I bought a Remington 700 in 6.5 CM for 700 and some change. put night Force Base and badger rings on it for around the 1000.00 mark. I haven't had time to really shoot a bunch of groups but after sighting it in I did shoot a 5 shot group at 3/4 moa at 100 yards. Next on the list is either a McMillan or Manners stock and haven't decided on a new trigger but hopefully that 3/4 will tighten up a bit.


Sounds like a good set up you have going.

I'm gonna get in touch with chad after the holidays and get some custom loads made up. I'm still gonna buy a rifle and start building it. Not exactly sure what I'll end up with yet or where I'll finish but thats half the fun! Right?!?! Lol. I really appreciate all of yalls input and answering my questions. Merry Christmas everyone!


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I'm happy with it so far. I got the one with the heavy barrel and it's heavy as all get out. Wouldn't want to use it on spot and stalk but it's not bad in the stand and great on a bench.

Merry Christmas to you too!

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