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#7005067 - 12/20/17 09:15 PM Fire Damage
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I recently lost my Papa in a house fire. Since I was a kid he always told me I could have his guns when he passed. I never wanted to hear that stuff when he would tell me but now the time has come. The guns were in a less than adequate safe and burned. I pulled them out and some what cleaned them up and coated them with oil until I can figure out what to do. They are really the only things he left to me and I really want to try and salvage what I can. I know that if metal gets too hot I can lose its hardness so I'm worried about the integrity. I really hope I can restore them to fully functioning firearms but if not I'd like to at least get them back to what I remember them looking like. I'm looking for any kind of insight any of you may have. Thanks in advance.

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#7005074 - 12/20/17 09:25 PM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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Dayum man, I sure hate to hear this. Prayers for you.
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#7005077 - 12/20/17 09:28 PM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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Terrible news. Sorry for your loss. I don't have any information for you, just advice. I would try and find a gun Smith in my area and have him look at each firearm.
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#7005079 - 12/20/17 09:28 PM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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The steel did not get hot enough to lose its' hardness. It takes a forge to do that.
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#7005090 - 12/20/17 09:36 PM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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Guns get very hot when they are shot, it takes a LOT of heat to hurt the metal.

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#7005159 - 12/20/17 11:24 PM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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If the metal got hot enough to start tempering the wood would be long gone and any springs would have lost their "spring".

I no longer do general gunsmithing work but can tell you unless these are extremely high end guns any money you put into restoration will be higher than actual value. Sentimental value can be higher than actual value, and there's nothing wrong with that.


Edited by TDK (12/20/17 11:27 PM)
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#7005264 - 12/21/17 06:34 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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good advice TDK

Sorry for your loss Sam, I'm sure the guns are going to be OK
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#7005327 - 12/21/17 07:44 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
samhardin Offline
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So the wood was burned off of all of them. I understand the cost being higher than the actual value. I have 3 possibly 4 that I think are worth investigating they are as follows Thompson Contender w/ .44mag barrel pistol, Remington 700 BDL .270, and a Winchester Model 94 30/30. There is also a 30 carbine that I'd like to investigate but there's not as much sentimental value in it.

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#7005330 - 12/21/17 07:46 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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Originally Posted By: samhardin
So the wood was burned off of all of them.


Dang!
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#7005357 - 12/21/17 08:01 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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Registered: 12/26/11
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Loc: Ft. Worth
Folks sell factory stocks on ebay after they replace them. I'd start looking there to replace the wood. Then, as was already said, find a smith that could fix what is needed. What's the condition of the blueing?

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#7005480 - 12/21/17 09:37 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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I’d clean them, oil them, check that the action all seem to be working. Then I’d take them to a smith, check for function, then replace the stocks/ have the metal refinished.
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#7005488 - 12/21/17 09:47 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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I am so sorry. Prayers up for y'all. The fellas can help with advice far better than I can for restoration.
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#7005533 - 12/21/17 10:24 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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Sorry for your loss. Good luck with the mementos.
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#7005575 - 12/21/17 11:00 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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#7005645 - 12/21/17 11:50 AM Re: Fire Damage [Re: samhardin]
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So sorry man. I just can't even imagine.
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