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Ruger 45 colt
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12/11/17 01:49 PM
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piney woods hunter
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Hey folks any load recommendations for 45 colt bullet powder combo that want break the bank. Plan on using as backup to rifle and lease carry gun. It has 4.5/8 barrel. Would like bullet powder combo to kill big hogs at close range. It's a blackhawk single action
NRA all the way god guns and guts made us free , i want all three
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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#6991604
12/11/17 02:15 PM
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RiverRider
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Bullet choice is probably where you'll have the most flexibilty with cost. Commercial cast would be the cheapest way to go, and cast bullets are very good where penetration is important. Just be sure to use a fairly stiff charge of the powder you choose...you want the pressure to come up fast and whump that bullet base hard for good obturation to seal the bore and keep leading down. In other words, don't use a light charge of 2400 if you want 900 fps. In that case I'd use W231 or something faster burning. If you want 1300 fps, go to a slower burning powder.
You can push a Blackhawk in .45 Colt pretty hard, so you'll be able to make it pretty mean if you want.
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/11/17 03:07 PM
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Have shot a bunch of stuff in traps with some lazercast 250 grain cast round nose flat point and never had a complaint. I load over 9 grains of HS-6, is a cowboy load I believe at 800-900 fps.
I have another load using around 20 grains of IMR 4227 and a sierra 240 grain JHC Jacketed hollow cavity. They will do double caliber expansion. Shooting the cast stuff I have never really noticed expansion, just the bullet is already big around.
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/11/17 06:01 PM
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piney woods hunter
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Have a supply of H 110 think that would work with a good 250 grain bullet. Hope to drive it to around 1000 fps. This will be my first hand loading of handgun round, have loaded lots of rifles
NRA all the way god guns and guts made us free , i want all three
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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#6991956
12/11/17 06:11 PM
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Probably not a good choice for a 1000 fps load in the .45 Colt. That powder need to be driven hard. Unique or W231 would be a better pick, and there are many others that would work.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/12/17 12:56 AM
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For the past 35 to 40 years I have been using 8.0 to 8.5 grains of Unique. Drives a 250 / 255 gr. cast bullet about 850 to 875 f.p.s. Has taken many hogs and a few deer.
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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#6992539
12/12/17 01:02 AM
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kmon11
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Probably not a good choice for a 1000 fps load in the .45 Colt. That powder need to be driven hard. Unique or W231 would be a better pick, and there are many others that would work. Agree and would throw in Hodgdon Universal Clays in the mix. Switched to it years ago, very clean burning powder was the difference I saw that lead to the switch.
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/14/17 08:25 PM
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RiverRider
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H110 with cast at 1000 fps?
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/15/17 02:01 AM
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TLoving
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Use either reloading manuals or the powder manufacturer's website to help determine how much of what type of powder to use for a particular weight and bullet style. I never give out a recipe in fear of having a typographical error.
In two of my 45 Colt pistols I have only shot cast bullets. In my other 45 Colt I shoot both cast and jacketed bullets. I have found that Leadhead Bullet Company and Penn Bullets carry well made cast bullets.
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/15/17 02:06 AM
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OP stated he wants to drive a 250 about 1000 fps. H110 may work really well for a 1300 fps load, but it's the wrong powder for a 1000 fps load.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/15/17 02:38 AM
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fmrmbmlm
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Don't rule out IMR 800X, might need to weigh every charge though.
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/15/17 02:50 AM
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Cartridge : .45 Colt (SAAMI)
Bullet : .452, 255, LYM LSWC 454424
Useable Case Capaci: 27.161 grain H2O = 1.764 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.580 inch = 40.13 mm
Barrel Length : 4.6 inch = 116.8 mm
Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Muzzle Velocity: 1000 fps or 304 m/s
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !
Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time
% Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms
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Hodgdon H110 84.8 22.8 1.48 1000 58.0 17321 7798 0.669
Winchester 296 84.6 22.7 1.47 1000 53.5 17066 7918 0.669
Hodgdon H4227 98.6 22.6 1.46 1000 52.3 19608 6902 0.619
Hodgdon Lil'Gun 85.6 22.3 1.44 1000 60.9 16968 8138 0.666
IMR 4227 96.6 22.1 1.43 1000 53.1 19747 6842 0.617
Accurate 5744 85.2 20.4 1.32 1000 53.1 19988 6909 0.620
Accurate 4100 78.1 20.2 1.31 1000 63.3 18238 7328 0.650
Vihtavuori N110 93.3 19.8 1.28 1000 64.9 17339 7669 0.659
Ramshot Enforcer 74.7 19.1 1.24 1000 67.1 17482 7618 0.667
Norma R123 73.4 18.4 1.19 1000 78.8 15264 8909 0.729
Alliant 2400 73.4 17.4 1.13 1000 67.0 18166 7416 0.660
Accurate No.9 65.0 17.3 1.12 1000 71.1 18570 7187 0.647
Accurate No.7 57.7 15.5 1.00 1000 77.4 18220 7273 0.659
Alliant BLUE DOT 74.0 15.1 0.98 1000 76.9 18743 7123 0.649
Vihtavuori N105 75.4 14.8 0.96 1000 84.1 16887 7532 0.672
Vihtavuori 3N38 70.7 14.4 0.94 1000 82.4 18779 6974 0.646
Hodgdon HS-6 49.5 12.3 0.79 1000 94.6 19975 6387 0.626
Ramshot True Blue 46.5 11.8 0.77 1000 96.4 20227 6256 0.622
Winchester 540 45.8 11.8 0.77 1000 96.6 20236 6251 0.622
Hodgdon Longshot 46.9 11.8 0.77 1000 96.3 20192 6270 0.623
Vihtavuori 3N37 60.8 11.7 0.76 1000 96.4 19652 6421 0.634
Accurate No.5 45.0 11.6 0.75 1000 92.2 19627 6548 0.628
Vihtavuori N350 63.4 11.6 0.75 1000 96.8 19740 6328 0.628
Alliant POWER PISTOL 58.0 11.5 0.75 1000 87.9 18710 6935 0.644
IMR TrailBoss 135.8 11.5 0.74 1000 100.0 28764 4512 0.551
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star 90.9 11.4 0.74 1000 100.0 30525 4420 0.544
Winchester WAP 50.0 10.9 0.71 1000 99.3 20658 5982 0.616
Ramshot Silhouette 49.9 10.9 0.70 1000 99.4 20686 5964 0.616
Alliant HERCO 67.5 10.6 0.69 1000 98.8 20030 6295 0.638
Vihtavuori N340 60.8 10.1 0.65 1000 100.0 21504 5633 0.608
Maxam CSB 1 67.0 9.8 0.64 1000 100.0 23605 5039 0.585
Alliant UNIQUE 60.3 9.7 0.63 1000 99.9 20600 5967 0.628
Accurate No.2 58.1 9.6 0.63 1000 99.6 21838 5639 0.598
Winchester 231 50.9 9.6 0.62 1000 100.0 23967 5026 0.580
Ramshot Zip 45.7 9.6 0.62 1000 100.0 23967 5026 0.580
Vihtavuori N330 58.7 9.6 0.62 1000 100.0 22537 5234 0.601
Hodgdon HP38 45.5 9.5 0.62 1000 100.0 24374 4961 0.576
Accurate Solo 1250 63.6 9.5 0.62 1000 100.0 23411 5091 0.585
Hodgdon Universal 58.1 9.3 0.61 1000 100.0 22764 5308 0.605
Hodgdon TiteGroup 44.6 9.1 0.59 1000 100.0 27379 4646 0.552
Norma R1 71.7 9.1 0.59 1000 100.0 30125 4542 0.542
Vihtavuori N320 60.7 8.9 0.58 1000 100.0 25764 4790 0.571
Alliant GREEN DOT 63.4 8.8 0.57 1000 100.0 25589 4870 0.572
Accurate Solo 1000 63.4 8.8 0.57 1000 100.0 26842 4686 0.554
Alliant BULLSEYE 52.4 8.7 0.56 1000 100.0 21062 5737 0.607
Alliant RED DOT 66.9 8.3 0.54 1000 100.0 27484 4712 0.556
Hodgdon Clays 69.2 8.3 0.54 1000 100.0 33687 4292 0.509
Vihtavuori N310 56.7 8.3 0.53 1000 100.0 32029 4371 0.528
Accurate Nitro 100 62.2 8.1 0.53 1000 100.0 25763 4825 0.563
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
[Re: piney woods hunter]
#6996985
12/15/17 03:00 AM
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RiverRider
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Look at this QuickLOAD powder profile solution. This was set up to show powders and charges yielding 1000 fps. Notice the "Prop.Burnt %" column. Any powder that gives you less than a 90% burn is probably not going to work real well. Notice H110 and W296 right up there at the top. NOT a good pick.
The last 25 or so powders are the ones I'd be looking at, and I'd probably want to go with something that fills the case 50% or more. I would definitely not try to get 1000 fps using Trailboss, but the rest of the bottom of that list look like good candidates, from HS6 on down.
"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty." -Augustus McRae
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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#6997045
12/15/17 03:36 AM
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boonee
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My load is 10 grains of Unique (use at your own risk) With my home cast 260gr HARD lead RNFP In my Ruger Blackhawk, and my Rossi Carbine. Might not be the best choice, but I have ALOT of it!
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Re: Ruger 45 colt
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12/15/17 05:36 AM
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Tactical Cowboy
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