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#6994878 - 12/13/17 12:54 PM hunting/recovering in thick brush
bobcatt Offline
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Registered: 12/11/05
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Loc: Kilgore, TX
I've been trying to use common sense here, but maybe there's a tip i'm missing. i'm currently hunting 85 acres of very thick, almost impassible east texas forest and brush, with the exceptions being two lanes cut out by oilfield workers and an area about 30 yards squared from my stand where my feeder is set. Obviously a 1-shot clean, quick kill is the goal, but otherwise...

any tips on hunting, and more on my mind, searching for and recovering an animal...shooting a good buck that will crash into the thicket has me concerned.
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#6994881 - 12/13/17 12:59 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: bobcatt]
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Concentrate on shot placement would be the first thing I would place emphasis on.
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#6994906 - 12/13/17 01:31 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: bobcatt]
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If your buck runs after the shot: WAIT at least 30 min. do not push him, mark the last place you saw him (a close tree, bush or anything that stands out to you), go to where he was standing when you shot pick up the blood trail, track him slowly. Unless there is a lot of very noticable blood I point at the last place I saw blood with a stick or my finger while looking for the next blood sign. This will get you started and probably be all you need to do if your shot placement was good.

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#6994934 - 12/13/17 01:53 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: BenBob]
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Originally Posted By: BenBob
Concentrate on shot placement would be the first thing I would place emphasis on.
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#6994935 - 12/13/17 01:54 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: bobcatt]
Jimbo Offline
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I hunt in South Texas where every bush has thorns and if it doesn't have thorns it has fangs.
I shoot the deer with a high shoulder shot that drops them in their tracks.
Caliber needs to be appropriate since you are trying to hit heavy bone with enough shock and awe to disrupt their entire nervous system, as well as their main blood supply.

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#6994981 - 12/13/17 02:19 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: Jimbo]
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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
I shoot the deer with a high shoulder shot that drops them in their tracks.
Caliber needs to be appropriate since you are trying to hit heavy bone with enough shock and awe to disrupt their entire nervous system, as well as their main blood supply.


^^ This. And use a bullet that will give you a pass through, like an Accubond or heavy for caliber bullet. And pigs, I would shoot high neck, in the neck, or head shot. These shot placements will anchor them where they stand. I never shoot pigs behind the shoulder, since they run off after being hit.
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#6994993 - 12/13/17 02:33 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: bobcatt]
agsellers04 Offline
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Are you bow hunting or gun hunting?

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#6995252 - 12/13/17 05:47 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: ChadTRG42]
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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Originally Posted By: Jimbo
I shoot the deer with a high shoulder shot that drops them in their tracks.
Caliber needs to be appropriate since you are trying to hit heavy bone with enough shock and awe to disrupt their entire nervous system, as well as their main blood supply.


^^ This. And use a bullet that will give you a pass through, like an Accubond or heavy for caliber bullet. And pigs, I would shoot high neck, in the neck, or head shot. These shot placements will anchor them where they stand. I never shoot pigs behind the shoulder, since they run off after being hit.

agree
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#6995327 - 12/13/17 07:01 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: Jimbo]
WatersFowler Offline
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Registered: 08/19/12
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Loc: Melissa, TX
Originally Posted By: Jimbo
I hunt in South Texas where every bush has thorns and if it doesn't have thorns it has fangs.
I shoot the deer with a high shoulder shot that drops them in their tracks.
Caliber needs to be appropriate since you are trying to hit heavy bone with enough shock and awe to disrupt their entire nervous system, as well as their main blood supply.


This. My 11 year old son shot a nice buck near a fence line and hit it in the shoulder with a .243. We waited a couple hours and all we found was meat with some bone fragments in it. Blood trail stopped after about 75 yds and he was never recovered. Searched for over 5 hours. This was bad placement for a .243, but I am now a little sour on the smaller bullet. Big dear need big lead.
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#6995339 - 12/13/17 07:09 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: WatersFowler]
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Originally Posted By: WatersFowler
Originally Posted By: Jimbo
I hunt in South Texas where every bush has thorns and if it doesn't have thorns it has fangs.
I shoot the deer with a high shoulder shot that drops them in their tracks.
Caliber needs to be appropriate since you are trying to hit heavy bone with enough shock and awe to disrupt their entire nervous system, as well as their main blood supply.


This. My 11 year old son shot a nice buck near a fence line and hit it in the shoulder with a .243. We waited a couple hours and all we found was meat with some bone fragments in it. Blood trail stopped after about 75 yds and he was never recovered. Searched for over 5 hours. This was bad placement for a .243, but I am now a little sour on the smaller bullet. Big dear need big lead.


The smaller the bullet diameter and the faster you push said bullet the more premium bullets pay off. Sure they are more expensive but in the cost of hunting they are a very small part for most of us.
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#6995358 - 12/13/17 07:25 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: bobcatt]
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Neck shoot them and you wonít have to worry about tracking.

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#6996086 - 12/14/17 10:47 AM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: agsellers04]
bobcatt Offline
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Loc: Kilgore, TX
Originally Posted By: agsellers04
Are you bow hunting or gun hunting?
gun for now, probably do some clearing before bow season next year
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#6996166 - 12/14/17 11:57 AM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: bobcatt]
agsellers04 Offline
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Registered: 11/25/09
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Loc: Burleson, Texas
Originally Posted By: bobcatt
Originally Posted By: agsellers04
Are you bow hunting or gun hunting?
gun for now, probably do some clearing before bow season next year


OK. So I hunt northeast Texas hardwood and cedar forest with thick underbrush and have always tried to keep in mind that wildlife, much like humans, tend to travel the path of least resistance. Learn those paths well. They may not necessarily be "the trail", but the animal will likely funnel via instinct to those paths. And obviously, you don't need to do this if you never lose visual. This knowledge has helped us locate more downed animals than any other knowledge. When I get off track, I go back to the last place I saw the deer and start over. Look for blood up to about 5 foot high on the brush and trees, not just on the ground. Also, after the shot, be sure to open your ears and listen very closely because the animal may tend to crash and bang off of trees and brush, thereby giving you an indication of direction of travel. It is a skill that takes time to develop but it is very useful and makes the experience more fulfilling.

Red Cloud's tip above is a good tip and goes along with what I am explaining.

I wouldn't do too much clearing or you may run out much of what is there.

Shot placement, weapon, optics, caliber, ammunition type, etc. is all largely a matter of preference no matter where you are hunting and you should have that all figured out before you leave home. Much of the advice here seems to be geared towards shot placement to drop the deer in its tracks in order to avoid losing visual which is not a poor tactic if you are confident enough in your abilities. As long as you are proficient at delivering a fatal shot that kills the animal within a 100 yard radius, you task will be far easier. In my experience, when they make it further than about 100 yards, it gets progressively to exponentially more difficult to locate a downed animal in thick cover.

Good luck to you.

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#6996296 - 12/14/17 01:25 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: bobcatt]
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Registered: 05/11/17
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Loc: Texas
Bobcat, shoot enough to learn what your capabilities are. Not sure what you shoot but heavy for caliber bullets up the odds for an exit. Use those two pieces of advice to make a good shot with enough bullet.
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#6996311 - 12/14/17 01:35 PM Re: hunting/recovering in thick brush [Re: scalebuster]
ErnestTBass Offline
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Registered: 08/12/16
Posts: 345
Originally Posted By: scalebuster
Neck shoot them and you won’t have to worry about tracking.


I've heard this a lot but respectfully disagree. I don't neck shoot, but I've helped buddies track neck shot deer and not recover them. A bullet can go through the neck without hitting spine or killing the animal. And, in that event, it's probably not going to even slow them down substantially like a broken shoulder.

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