To the original poster. There will be those who view themselves and their breed with an elitetist attitude. Steer clear of them. What you need to find is a true dog man who will objectively assess what you have to work with and be straightforward with you about it. Just because you have a registered lab does not mean it has or does not have the instincts or the ability to make you a good hunting dog. The overall popularity of the lab has facilitated a dilution of that ability and instinct in the registered population. So to your statement "they can all be trained"- not exactly, some just don't have it. Many will tout pedigree, with good reason. It stacks the odds in their favor. However performance is not determined by color, it's what's under the hood combined with what you do with the dog. Any trainer that you are going to want to train your dog is going to turn dogs away. The dogs he turns away will be performance or owner based. Not pedigree or what they look like. If the trainer does not want to first see if he has something to work with I would be suspect of what he expects to turn out. You have a good looking pup. I wish you the best in finding the right trainer to help you sort it all out. I am no longer running labs and currently hunt a versatile but in the event you do not find a trainer you are comfortable with in your geographic area PM me and I can give you the names of some good trainers I have trained with to talk to. Like me they are well to the south of you. You are in the heart of good lab country and should be able to find what you are seeking. Do the leg work and do not be deterred by the naysayers. In the short term there are a lot of good retriever training programs. Start reading and working on puppy stuff with the little guy. The retriever training forum used to be a great place to visit with experienced retriever trainers....

I respect your personal opinion. And I respect the opinion of the scientists who have too much free time on their hands to go into depth of the color of a dog.. his grandparents are champion bloodline dogs his grandparents and parents are purebred. Our vet is an AKC certified vet and saw his papers and stated that his grandparents were champion bloodline and that the likelihood of him having coat issue were slim. And the fact that we take our dogs health very seriously and feed him food that also is great for minimizing coat issues. So far he has been great! So maybe they bred a lab and Weimaraner to get the color... Weimaraner is reputable hunting dog for large game dating back to the 19th century. Sounds like a great “mutt” to me, if that it was you want to consider him.. If you didn’t care about the color, then why not just keep your comments to yourself? Yes I realize it is not a recognized color and recognized as black. Which if you saw a picture he is more black than silver.

The Pudelpointer has been used as a foundation breed before, and some fine breeds of highly capable dogs like the wire haired pointing griffon have been produced. So if you were to use it as such you would not be the first.

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Brady, I understand your point. To take it a step further, I always shied away from the brown labs because I felt there was some bias toward color over performance in some of the lines, even though I have seen some dang nice brown dogs. However, I don't think color should stop the OP from finding out what kind of goods his dog has or hunting the dog if it pans out.

Well, NO!!!
Brady, I understand your point. To take it a step further, I always shied away from the brown labs because I felt there was some bias toward color over performance in some of the lines, even though I have seen some dang nice brown dogs. However, I don't think color should stop the OP from finding out what kind of goods his dog has or hunting the dog if it pans out.

I used a gentleman in Rockwall by the name of Richard. I do not remember his last name. He did very good work with my dog. 2143171492 is his cell number.