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#6991572 - 12/11/17 07:49 AM Ruger 45 colt
piney woods hunter Offline
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Hey folks any load recommendations for 45 colt bullet powder combo that want break the bank. Plan on using as backup to rifle and lease carry gun. It has 4.5/8 barrel. Would like bullet powder combo to kill big hogs at close range. It's a blackhawk single action
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#6991604 - 12/11/17 08:15 AM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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Bullet choice is probably where you'll have the most flexibilty with cost. Commercial cast would be the cheapest way to go, and cast bullets are very good where penetration is important. Just be sure to use a fairly stiff charge of the powder you choose...you want the pressure to come up fast and whump that bullet base hard for good obturation to seal the bore and keep leading down. In other words, don't use a light charge of 2400 if you want 900 fps. In that case I'd use W231 or something faster burning. If you want 1300 fps, go to a slower burning powder.

You can push a Blackhawk in .45 Colt pretty hard, so you'll be able to make it pretty mean if you want.
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#6991680 - 12/11/17 09:07 AM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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Have shot a bunch of stuff in traps with some lazercast 250 grain cast round nose flat point and never had a complaint. I load over 9 grains of HS-6, is a cowboy load I believe at 800-900 fps.

I have another load using around 20 grains of IMR 4227 and a sierra 240 grain JHC Jacketed hollow cavity. They will do double caliber expansion. Shooting the cast stuff I have never really noticed expansion, just the bullet is already big around.
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#6991941 - 12/11/17 12:01 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
piney woods hunter Offline
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Have a supply of H 110 think that would work with a good 250 grain bullet. Hope to drive it to around 1000 fps. This will be my first hand loading of handgun round, have loaded lots of rifles
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#6991956 - 12/11/17 12:11 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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Probably not a good choice for a 1000 fps load in the .45 Colt. That powder need to be driven hard. Unique or W231 would be a better pick, and there are many others that would work.
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#6992527 - 12/11/17 06:56 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
Michael W. Offline
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For the past 35 to 40 years I have been using 8.0 to 8.5 grains of Unique. Drives a 250 / 255 gr. cast bullet about 850 to 875 f.p.s.
Has taken many hogs and a few deer.
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#6992539 - 12/11/17 07:02 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Probably not a good choice for a 1000 fps load in the .45 Colt. That powder need to be driven hard. Unique or W231 would be a better pick, and there are many others that would work.


Agree and would throw in Hodgdon Universal Clays in the mix. Switched to it years ago, very clean burning powder was the difference I saw that lead to the switch.
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#6996219 - 12/14/17 12:39 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
TLoving Offline
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https://www.johnlinebaughcustomsixguns.com/writings this is a fantastic article about the 45 Colt.

Besides Win 231, HS 6, and H110 I have had good success with Unique and Blue Dot.
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#6996384 - 12/14/17 02:25 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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H110 with cast at 1000 fps?
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#6996880 - 12/14/17 08:01 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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Use either reloading manuals or the powder manufacturer's website to help determine how much of what type of powder to use for a particular weight and bullet style. I never give out a recipe in fear of having a typographical error.

In two of my 45 Colt pistols I have only shot cast bullets. In my other 45 Colt I shoot both cast and jacketed bullets. I have found that Leadhead Bullet Company and Penn Bullets carry well made cast bullets.
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#6996888 - 12/14/17 08:06 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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OP stated he wants to drive a 250 about 1000 fps. H110 may work really well for a 1300 fps load, but it's the wrong powder for a 1000 fps load.
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#6996946 - 12/14/17 08:38 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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Don't rule out IMR 800X, might need to weigh every charge though.

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#6996967 - 12/14/17 08:50 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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Code:
Cartridge          : .45 Colt (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .452, 255, LYM LSWC 454424
Useable Case Capaci: 27.161 grain H2O = 1.764 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.580 inch = 40.13 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.6 inch = 116.8 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Muzzle Velocity: 1000 fps or 304 m/s
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------

Hodgdon H110                        84.8     22.8     1.48    1000    58.0    17321    7798   0.669
Winchester 296                      84.6     22.7     1.47    1000    53.5    17066    7918   0.669
Hodgdon H4227                       98.6     22.6     1.46    1000    52.3    19608    6902   0.619
Hodgdon Lil'Gun                     85.6     22.3     1.44    1000    60.9    16968    8138   0.666
IMR 4227                            96.6     22.1     1.43    1000    53.1    19747    6842   0.617
Accurate 5744                       85.2     20.4     1.32    1000    53.1    19988    6909   0.620
Accurate 4100                       78.1     20.2     1.31    1000    63.3    18238    7328   0.650
Vihtavuori N110                     93.3     19.8     1.28    1000    64.9    17339    7669   0.659
Ramshot Enforcer                    74.7     19.1     1.24    1000    67.1    17482    7618   0.667
Norma R123                          73.4     18.4     1.19    1000    78.8    15264    8909   0.729
Alliant 2400                        73.4     17.4     1.13    1000    67.0    18166    7416   0.660
Accurate No.9                       65.0     17.3     1.12    1000    71.1    18570    7187   0.647
Accurate No.7                       57.7     15.5     1.00    1000    77.4    18220    7273   0.659
Alliant BLUE DOT                    74.0     15.1     0.98    1000    76.9    18743    7123   0.649
Vihtavuori N105                     75.4     14.8     0.96    1000    84.1    16887    7532   0.672
Vihtavuori 3N38                     70.7     14.4     0.94    1000    82.4    18779    6974   0.646
Hodgdon HS-6                        49.5     12.3     0.79    1000    94.6    19975    6387   0.626
Ramshot True Blue                   46.5     11.8     0.77    1000    96.4    20227    6256   0.622
Winchester 540                      45.8     11.8     0.77    1000    96.6    20236    6251   0.622
Hodgdon Longshot                    46.9     11.8     0.77    1000    96.3    20192    6270   0.623
Vihtavuori 3N37                     60.8     11.7     0.76    1000    96.4    19652    6421   0.634
Accurate No.5                       45.0     11.6     0.75    1000    92.2    19627    6548   0.628
Vihtavuori N350                     63.4     11.6     0.75    1000    96.8    19740    6328   0.628
Alliant POWER PISTOL                58.0     11.5     0.75    1000    87.9    18710    6935   0.644
IMR TrailBoss                      135.8     11.5     0.74    1000   100.0    28764    4512   0.551  
Vihtavuori N32C Tin Star            90.9     11.4     0.74    1000   100.0    30525    4420   0.544  
Winchester WAP                      50.0     10.9     0.71    1000    99.3    20658    5982   0.616
Ramshot Silhouette                  49.9     10.9     0.70    1000    99.4    20686    5964   0.616
Alliant HERCO                       67.5     10.6     0.69    1000    98.8    20030    6295   0.638
Vihtavuori N340                     60.8     10.1     0.65    1000   100.0    21504    5633   0.608
Maxam CSB 1                         67.0      9.8     0.64    1000   100.0    23605    5039   0.585
Alliant UNIQUE                      60.3      9.7     0.63    1000    99.9    20600    5967   0.628
Accurate No.2                       58.1      9.6     0.63    1000    99.6    21838    5639   0.598
Winchester 231                      50.9      9.6     0.62    1000   100.0    23967    5026   0.580
Ramshot Zip                         45.7      9.6     0.62    1000   100.0    23967    5026   0.580
Vihtavuori N330                     58.7      9.6     0.62    1000   100.0    22537    5234   0.601
Hodgdon HP38                        45.5      9.5     0.62    1000   100.0    24374    4961   0.576
Accurate Solo 1250                  63.6      9.5     0.62    1000   100.0    23411    5091   0.585
Hodgdon Universal                   58.1      9.3     0.61    1000   100.0    22764    5308   0.605
Hodgdon TiteGroup                   44.6      9.1     0.59    1000   100.0    27379    4646   0.552  
Norma R1                            71.7      9.1     0.59    1000   100.0    30125    4542   0.542  
Vihtavuori N320                     60.7      8.9     0.58    1000   100.0    25764    4790   0.571
Alliant GREEN DOT                   63.4      8.8     0.57    1000   100.0    25589    4870   0.572
Accurate Solo 1000                  63.4      8.8     0.57    1000   100.0    26842    4686   0.554
Alliant BULLSEYE                    52.4      8.7     0.56    1000   100.0    21062    5737   0.607
Alliant RED DOT                     66.9      8.3     0.54    1000   100.0    27484    4712   0.556  
Hodgdon Clays                       69.2      8.3     0.54    1000   100.0    33687    4292   0.509  
Vihtavuori N310                     56.7      8.3     0.53    1000   100.0    32029    4371   0.528  
Accurate Nitro 100                  62.2      8.1     0.53    1000   100.0    25763    4825   0.563
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#6996985 - 12/14/17 09:00 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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Look at this QuickLOAD powder profile solution. This was set up to show powders and charges yielding 1000 fps. Notice the "Prop.Burnt %" column. Any powder that gives you less than a 90% burn is probably not going to work real well. Notice H110 and W296 right up there at the top. NOT a good pick.

The last 25 or so powders are the ones I'd be looking at, and I'd probably want to go with something that fills the case 50% or more. I would definitely not try to get 1000 fps using Trailboss, but the rest of the bottom of that list look like good candidates, from HS6 on down.
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#6997045 - 12/14/17 09:36 PM Re: Ruger 45 colt [Re: piney woods hunter]
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My load is 10 grains of Unique (use at your own risk) With my home cast 260gr HARD lead RNFP
In my Ruger Blackhawk, and my Rossi Carbine.
Might not be the best choice, but I have ALOT of it!
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