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#6987866 - 12/07/17 10:37 PM Best short mag cartridge for elk?
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What short mag would you build and why?

Use: lightweight mountain rifle that's capable of handling elk out to 600yds or so.

I do reload so everything is on the table. Minimum bullet weight of 150gr

Must work well with a short barrel, probably 22" but may go 24" if I have to.

I've considered 7saum / 7WSM / 7x300 WSM / 300 WSM
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#6987900 - 12/07/17 11:06 PM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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If it's a dedicated elk rifle, the .325 WSM seems an obvious choice. If you want the most available factory ammo, then .300 WSM. If you are into the esoterica of cartridge design, then perhaps a 7mm SAUM. All that out of the way, why not just get a .284 Winchester?
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#6987901 - 12/07/17 11:07 PM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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If I were building it would be 300 RCM or 300 WSM
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#6987922 - 12/07/17 11:41 PM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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I'll vote 300 WSM, but it's beyond my capability.

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#6987948 - 12/08/17 12:56 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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I wouldnít build a short mag for that, but since you asked, Iíd go with the .300, to kill elk at 600.
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#6987950 - 12/08/17 01:30 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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of the short mags I would go with the 300 or 323 for that but really wanting to go 600 for slk I would go with a long action cartridge

The 7x300 WSM would not be my choice as it has a tad less powder capacity than the 7mm WSM. They extended the case body a fraction on the 7mm WSM to keep it from chambering and firing in a 270 WSM
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#6987971 - 12/08/17 05:24 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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I've killed 2 big New Mexico bulls with 270 WSM.

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#6987988 - 12/08/17 06:06 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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7mm08
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#6988002 - 12/08/17 06:19 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: Pitchfork Predator]
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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
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last I checked that's not a mag cartridge...but I like your choice.

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#6988017 - 12/08/17 06:42 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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6.5 SAUM and 147's (Tony killed a cow a few weels ago at 515 yards)

7 SAUM and 180's
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#6988028 - 12/08/17 07:01 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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There's only one short magnum that's got my attention and that's the 270 WSM. It's the only one that doesn't just duplicate what's already available (270 Weatherby excluded). Run a 140 Nosler Partition at 3250 or a 150 at at 3150 and you have some serious Elk medicine. Mrs. B will be shooting a 270 WSM in the future.
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#6988102 - 12/08/17 07:43 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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Any of them would work fine, so itís really just personal preference. I like a larger bullet for elk, so my personal mountain rifle for bigger game is a .300 WSM.

I shoot 180 grain bullets.
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#6988127 - 12/08/17 07:55 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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338 WSM. It's a 300 WSM (or 325 WSM) necked up to .338". I have built 2 of these rifles. The last one we just finished. We are pushing a 250 grain Berger Elite Hunter at 2702 fps in a 22" barrel. Making brass is super easy. Just run 325 WSM brass over a 338 expander ball, and done. Or, neck up 300 WSM with an 8mm expander (.323") then a .338". It's very easy to make.

A little bit about the 325 WSM cartridge. It has the best "gas mileage" of any round. Meaning, it can push the heaviest bullet the fastest with the least amount of powder. The 338 WSM is right in line with it also, being only .015" larger, with much better bullet choices.

The 6.5 SAUM (or 6.5 GAP 4S, same thing) that Tony built pushing 147 ELD bullets is pretty nice, also! Very flat shooting with a high BC. That would be a good one, also.
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#6988131 - 12/08/17 07:56 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: P & Y]
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I shot a 1400 pound cow with a 300 Wsm. Dropped like it had been hit with a sledge hammer.

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#6988142 - 12/08/17 08:00 AM Re: Best short mag cartridge for elk? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
6.5 SAUM and 147's (Tony killed a cow a few weels ago at 515 yards)

7 SAUM and 180's


Shot two elk earlier this season with my 6.5 SAUM4s with the 143 ELD with good results.... both were only 175 yds though. I stumbled onto a lefty 270 WSM Tikka and with a 145 ELD-X loaded to 3180 that thing shoots amazing so I donít doubt itís capability.


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