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Low Light Optics #6986747 12/07/17 03:58 PM
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Hey guys what are your go to rifle scopes at low light situations? Thanks

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budget?

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$2,000

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I have a Leupold VX6 that seems to create light. Really impressed with the low light capability of this scope. It's under your budget.


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Are you willing to move up to a 56mm objective and high/extra-high rings?


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yes if its quality glass

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has anyone shot the Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27X56?

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Thermal. clap

Seriously, I just went through this for a hunting scope and bought the VX-6HD 3-18x50, was noticeably brighter than similar Swaro and Zeiss. I didn't look at heavy tactical scopes though.

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Originally Posted By: PolishTexan
has anyone shot the Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27X56?


May i suggest you take a peek at the Athlon Optics Cronus BTR 4.5-29x56 - APLR FFP IR
It is available in MIL or MOA and runs $700.00 less and has been rated superior. Made in Japan

FEATURES
EHD Glass: Extra Low Dispersion HD Glass significantly reduces chromatic aberration giving you an utmost bright and sharp image with true color reproduction.
Illuminated Reticle: The illuminated reticle provides greater visibility during dusk and dawn and other low ambient light environment.
First Focal Plane Reticle: First focal plane reticle stays valid at all power settings allowing you to fully utilize the specially designed reticle that shrinks or grows along with your target as you zoom in or out. The reticle offers quick target engagement at low power while offering precise holdover positions with finer details.
Etched Glass Reticle: Reticle etched on the glass that provides excellent backing support for complex reticle design and offers great durability and much higher shock resistance to recoil
Advanced Fully Multicoated: Fully Multicoated optics effectively reduces reflected light and increases the transmission of light giving you a brighter image than normal single coated lenses
XPL Coating: XPL Coating gives you an extra protection on the exterior lenses from dirt, oil and scratches or anything else mother nature can throw at you.
Precision Zero Stop System: The system allows you to lock down your zero position and dial back to it with a sharp and precise stop right at your zero mark even you are turning it in pitch-dark or blinded folded.
High Precision Erector System: The high precision erector system processed by high precision CNC machine with +/- 0.0001mm tolerance level to provide you the most accurate power settings and smoothest magnification change
6061 T6 Aluminum: The 6061T6 aircraft grade aluminum tube that has exceptional strength and superior mechanical integrity will protect these world class optics no matter what punishment you throw at it.
Exposed Tactical Direct Dial: Exposed Direct Dial Turrets for elevation and windage allow you to quickly make adjustment as you needed and engage your target within a blink of your eyes
One Piece Tube Construction: Heat treated one piece tube gives the scope extra strength over multi-piece tubes. A one piece tube also is better at keeping moisture out thus keeping your scope fog proof for the life of the product
Waterproof: Waterproof to protect the scope in the harshest weather conditions or if accidently submerged underwater
Fog proof: Fog proof to allow you to immediately engage your target when you take your rifle to cold ambient temperature from warm inside
Shockproof: Robust mechanical system with special designs on both control and erector system that give you the ultimate recoil resistance to withstand 1000G recoil for 1000 times.
Argon Purged: Argon Purging uses the inertia gas with bigger size molecules to purge any moisture out of the tube giving you better waterproofing and thermal stability.

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Bought a Swarvoski Z6 3-18
Amazing glass from low light up close when shooting hogs to long distance (not in low light of course)...... 570 yards so far.

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I have the Vortex Razor Gen 2 3-18 and it's exceptional. That said, the non-dialing 1" LH line is also exceptional and is much, much lighter weight. The Razor Gen 2 is built like a tank, and is correspondingly heavy. Is this for a target or a hunting rifle? Are you planning on moving with the rifle? How far do you normally shoot?

Inquiring minds want to know.

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HAHA ;),,, I want it for both really. I usually take 200 yard shots when hunting, but every now and again I go hunting where the shots can be up to 500 yards. Weight of the scope really has no barring, I'm used to lifting heavy things. How does yours look when its low light? Thanbks

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$2,000


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My "go to" for low light, defined by me as after/before legal shooting hours, is either the 3-12x56 Zeiss Diavari/Victory/HT or the Schmidt or Swaro in similar config. I've owned 3 of the 3-12x56 Diavaris and could always see into the night with them. All were FFP.
Had a 6-24x72 for a while that was almost like night vision. It could see well into the night, even at distance.

I would venture to state that, based on the advancements in optical systems over the past few years, almost all of the current quality scopes in your stated price range should easily get a hunter to the extreme edges of legal shooting light.
If you want to make it easier, get a quality scope with a 56mm front end.

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VX6 w/firedot reticle.

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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
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Night Force ATACR F-1 4-16X.

x2 or if you up the budget some, I absolutely love my 5-25 but it's a bit heavier.

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I have a zeiss Diavari (sp) that is superb low light 3-12/56


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Great info guys. I guess I forgot to mention I wanted a scope with mil reticle and mil adjustments.

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Originally Posted By: PolishTexan
Great info guys. I guess I forgot to mention I wanted a scope with mil reticle and mil adjustments.


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I'm seeing a lot of FFP scopes being thrown around. You lose some gathering capability with a tiny reticle

My first choice would be a NF 4x16x50 atacr sfp

If you are going anywhere near $2000 the NF or Schmidt or Kahles

Lowlight is very important to me

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For $2k it is easy enough to find a gently used Hensoldt in the 3-12x56 or 4-16x56 variety that will check all your boxes. They are amazing optically, are FFP, basic illuminated mildot reticle in the $2k price point and have .1 mil spinners. They do not have zero stop.
Had a 3-12 and sold it in excellent condition for $1850 IIRC.

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
I'm seeing a lot of FFP scopes being thrown around. You lose some gathering capability with a tiny reticle



Quality optical systems and illumination make FFP reticles on low power a non-issue.
I don't understand your statement about "gathering capability". What are you referring to?

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I would venture to state that, based on the advancements in optical systems over the past few years, almost all of the current quality scopes in your stated price range should easily get a hunter to the extreme edges of legal shooting light.


It seems some want a scope that allows them to shoot well past that time.


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And that's cool for hogs and varmints in the night darkness. A quality scope with a 56 obj is where I'd start.

Not sure the 4-16 ATACR is the best choice for extreme low light but I will find out this coming week. I have 2 of the F1 variant and will be out for a 5 day hunt with one of them next week. Also taking the 2-10 NXS compact for comparison as they have the same obj size. Should be interesting.

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My 3-15x50 Premier is scary good in low light. My gen 1 razor does well in it's own right too but not as good. It was a bit better in low light than my old 5.5-22x56 nightforce nxs but the nf was better in mid day.


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