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#6986824 - 12/07/17 10:30 AM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: Creekrunner]
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Loc: Temple...Hunt in Freestone Co.
There's an old man on our lease that always tries to con people into doing all of his work for him, but NEVER helping anyone else out regardless of what it may be. His son (mid to late 40's) is on the lease, but he'll still try to pawn everything on others before his son. Last time I was out, he had a doe hung up in our cleaning hut and says "I saw your dad out here last weekend, and he offered you to clean all of my deer this season." HA! Good luck with that one buddy. I don't mind helping one bit, as long as I can get some help when it's needed on my end too.

I've gotten used to cleaning deer hanging by their back legs over the past 6 years. This past weekend hunting with dad, I cleaned one on the ground and it took much longer than it used to. roflmao

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#6986861 - 12/07/17 10:50 AM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: dkershen]
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Originally Posted By: dkershen
My brother and I clean a lot of deer (mostly mulies) every year, and have a pretty efficient system. On occasion I'll have a client try to tell me I'm doing it wrong. I'm pretty quick to hand them the knife and say "show me" then.

Getting the hide off of a big mulie can be a lot of work. Over the years we've tried all the tricks to try and make it go faster. Like the golf ball winch method. And the air compressor needle under the skin method (blows them up like a balloon). But bottom line just getting right after it with a sharp knife is the most expeditious way about it.


Lol tried all that too. Same conclusion.
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#6986888 - 12/07/17 11:04 AM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: redchevy]
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Originally Posted By: redchevy
The butt out has got to be a joke right?


That was my reaction at first as well - a friend bought them for several of us a few years ago. I threw mine in bag and forgot about it, until one of the others mentioned how well it works. Sure 'nuff - I am now a believer. No need to split pelvis or cut around anus when using it. Takes about 20 seconds to get the intestines back and out of way.
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#6986889 - 12/07/17 11:05 AM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: ZK-315]
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Loc: Central TX (Gtown/Austin)
Originally Posted By: ZK-315
There's an old man on our lease that always tries to con people into doing all of his work for him, but NEVER helping anyone else out regardless of what it may be. His son (mid to late 40's) is on the lease, but he'll still try to pawn everything on others before his son. Last time I was out, he had a doe hung up in our cleaning hut and says "I saw your dad out here last weekend, and he offered you to clean all of my deer this season." HA! Good luck with that one buddy. I don't mind helping one bit, as long as I can get some help when it's needed on my end too.

I've gotten used to cleaning deer hanging by their back legs over the past 6 years. This past weekend hunting with dad, I cleaned one on the ground and it took much longer than it used to. roflmao

I would never volunteer your assistance other than on my own stuff partyon555 clap

I used to be really fast cause I got a lot of practice (dad was allergic to the hair or dander), so I gutted, skinned and quartered a bunch ... I was the grunt as a kid and pretty much did everyone's deer, so easily 100+ per season ... then as my kids and nephews were growing up (and then SIL) teaching them I got a lot of practice too. As I get older with bad back & knees and much less practice, I have slowed drastically.
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#6987013 - 12/07/17 12:10 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: Nitro27]
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Originally Posted By: Nitro27
Originally Posted By: Stub
Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
It's always weird to see it done with the front end of the deer facing up.

My dad's complain is that he does it meticulously so as not to puncture any guts or get any pee or anything on the rest of the meat/hide. A good portion of the guides that skin/gut our animals (when the option is on the table that is) will get a little bit of that bile or pee on some part and it annoys him. But he doesn't really get mad or tell them to change what they're doing, just vents to me when we get home and have to clean and cut it up for the freezer.

I don't really care either way, it's gonna get hosed down anyway.

Deer camp in Georgia: load deer onto the front of the ATV, take it to the cleaning station, hang it up, cut out the bakstrap (sometimes without even skinning!), cut out the quarters, the rest of it goes to the "deer graveyard." This really bothered me because there was a lot of meat being thrown away, the guys there didn't like the smell or the hassle of gutting it. But hey, your tag, your deer, your decision.


I stopped gutting deer years ago. Way too easy to leave them in and the only thing sacrificed is the ribs.


Tenderloins confused2




The tenderloins are easy to get out without gutting
right behind the ribs cut along the back bone
Throw the carcass away with the guts still inside.


Exactly! I'm amazed at how many people actually gut their deer. I have not gutted an animal in years. You can get everything (including tenderloins) quickly and cleanly without gutting.
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#6987025 - 12/07/17 12:22 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: Creekrunner]
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Went for a long time not gutting them. I gut mine now mostly to lessen the weight and make them easier to deal with.
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#6987053 - 12/07/17 12:40 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: Creekrunner]
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Registered: 10/19/12
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LO wants us bringing them back and skinning/cleaning them at the house. He believes it causes less attraction for predators in his pastures. (But It's a field day at the dump, let me tell you!)

I'm gonna try not gutting next season, or maybe this year with a guest's deer. I'll have to watch a YouTube video for how to get the hind quarters off without causing a mess.

There's three other pastures leased, with one skinning station, with mostly worn out winches, cables, etc. Some other hunters love to roar up there on their stupid UTV,that seems to be running 24/7, when they see anyone else and see what's been killed. I understand the attraction, but don't show up and kibitz dammit.
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#6987066 - 12/07/17 12:58 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: Creekrunner]
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We lay em on their back, unzip from anus to chin (no shoulder mount of course). Cut through the hams, right in the center, then put the point of the knife on the suture of cartilage connecting the pelvis, and pound on the heel of the knife the palm of the other hand, and get it cut from north to south. Open the deer's back legs, stand on em, squat down, grap the tail, and stand up. Boom, rectum has a place to come out. Go back up to the chin, grab trachea, and esophagus in one hand, cut them loose, and start pulling toward the tail. A few cuts of fascia along the way, and every organ comes out in one piece. Deer just lost several pounds, making it easier to handle.

Back at camp, we skin head up, hanging from an old swingset frame, leaving the back legs touching the ground. Once the hide is peeled back to just above the tail, hold in both hands raise a foot onto it, and step down. The legs are way stronger than the arms. smile
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#6987081 - 12/07/17 01:04 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: Creekrunner]
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Originally Posted By: Creekrunner
LO wants us bringing them back and skinning/cleaning them at the house. He believes it causes less attraction for predators in his pastures. (But It's a field day at the dump, let me tell you!)

I'm gonna try not gutting next season, or maybe this year with a guest's deer. I'll have to watch a YouTube video for how to get the hind quarters off without causing a mess.


To go the gutless method, hang the deer by the hind quarters, cut the head off, skin the deer, remove the shoulders, then backstraps. Cut the guts down and let them fall into the rib cage until you can grab the tenders. After that cut the spine right below the hams with a saw or sawzaw and you are left with just the hams hanging together. Separate the pelvis and you are done. It really is that simple.

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#6987146 - 12/07/17 01:47 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
We lay em on their back, unzip from anus to chin (no shoulder mount of course). Cut through the hams, right in the center, then put the point of the knife on the suture of cartilage connecting the pelvis, and pound on the heel of the knife the palm of the other hand, and get it cut from north to south. Open the deer's back legs, stand on em, squat down, grap the tail, and stand up. Boom, rectum has a place to come out. Go back up to the chin, grab trachea, and esophagus in one hand, cut them loose, and start pulling toward the tail. A few cuts of fascia along the way, and every organ comes out in one piece. Deer just lost several pounds, making it easier to handle.


That's how we do it too, except use a saw for the pelvis and brisket. It can be done quick fast and in a hurry. Then with the guts out I can let it hang for an hour to cool while I go inside where my momma has coffee and a breakfast fit for a king ready. up

Plus the gutless is a no go for me because we save the ribs flank etc. for sausage/burger grind.
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#6987170 - 12/07/17 02:06 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: redchevy]
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Registered: 11/01/12
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Loc: Lubbock, TX
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
We lay em on their back, unzip from anus to chin (no shoulder mount of course). Cut through the hams, right in the center, then put the point of the knife on the suture of cartilage connecting the pelvis, and pound on the heel of the knife the palm of the other hand, and get it cut from north to south. Open the deer's back legs, stand on em, squat down, grap the tail, and stand up. Boom, rectum has a place to come out. Go back up to the chin, grab trachea, and esophagus in one hand, cut them loose, and start pulling toward the tail. A few cuts of fascia along the way, and every organ comes out in one piece. Deer just lost several pounds, making it easier to handle.


Boom.
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#6987183 - 12/07/17 02:12 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted By: dkershen
My brother and I clean a lot of deer (mostly mulies) every year, and have a pretty efficient system. On occasion I'll have a client try to tell me I'm doing it wrong. I'm pretty quick to hand them the knife and say "show me" then.

Getting the hide off of a big mulie can be a lot of work. Over the years we've tried all the tricks to try and make it go faster. Like the golf ball winch method. And the air compressor needle under the skin method (blows them up like a balloon). But bottom line just getting right after it with a sharp knife is the most expeditious way about it.


Lol tried all that too. Same conclusion.


The eye bolts in the concrete are to attach a short cable to the hide so when winching up the deer it pulls the hide off. You can see the shadow of the a'frame the electric winch is tied on. Only picture I still have of the contraption.
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#6987187 - 12/07/17 02:15 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: redchevy]
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Loc: Temple...Hunt in Freestone Co.
Originally Posted By: redchevy
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
We lay em on their back, unzip from anus to chin (no shoulder mount of course). Cut through the hams, right in the center, then put the point of the knife on the suture of cartilage connecting the pelvis, and pound on the heel of the knife the palm of the other hand, and get it cut from north to south. Open the deer's back legs, stand on em, squat down, grap the tail, and stand up. Boom, rectum has a place to come out. Go back up to the chin, grab trachea, and esophagus in one hand, cut them loose, and start pulling toward the tail. A few cuts of fascia along the way, and every organ comes out in one piece. Deer just lost several pounds, making it easier to handle.


That's how we do it too, except use a saw for the pelvis and brisket. It can be done quick fast and in a hurry.



That's how we always did it before we started hanging them to gut, but used a roofing hatchet and hammer instead of the saw. I always have a hammer and roofing hatchet in the bed of the truck during deer season, just for that. I cant ever hit the same spot twice with a hatchet, so that's what the hammer is for. haha Put the blade on the pelvis then smack with a hammer a few times and done. Smaller deer we do like Fireman said.. big knife and the heel of your hand.

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#6987197 - 12/07/17 02:20 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: hook_n_line]
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Registered: 10/19/12
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Originally Posted By: hook_n_line
The eye bolts in the concrete are to attach a short cable to the hide so when winching up the deer it pulls the hide off. You can see the shadow of the a'frame the electric winch is tied on. Only picture I still have of the contraption.


That's what we use at this lease. Works. Most of the time. The hide can break when you're almost through (with the head and forelegs cut off); then, it's a PITA.
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#6987206 - 12/07/17 02:28 PM Re: Heard at the skinning/gutting station... [Re: hook_n_line]
rexmitchell Offline
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Originally Posted By: hook_n_line
Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted By: dkershen
My brother and I clean a lot of deer (mostly mulies) every year, and have a pretty efficient system. On occasion I'll have a client try to tell me I'm doing it wrong. I'm pretty quick to hand them the knife and say "show me" then.

Getting the hide off of a big mulie can be a lot of work. Over the years we've tried all the tricks to try and make it go faster. Like the golf ball winch method. And the air compressor needle under the skin method (blows them up like a balloon). But bottom line just getting right after it with a sharp knife is the most expeditious way about it.


Lol tried all that too. Same conclusion.


The eye bolts in the concrete are to attach a short cable to the hide so when winching up the deer it pulls the hide off. You can see the shadow of the a'frame the electric winch is tied on. Only picture I still have of the contraption.



I still like to winch the skin off. At least it seems to take less time. Good idea on the I bolt.

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