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#6982971 - 12/04/17 07:29 PM I need help with bullets
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Light Foot

Registered: 11/28/17
Posts: 19
my brotier shot a 9 point this weekend at 80 yards the buck dropped in its tracks thank goodness. looking at deer could not see any blood on ground except 1 drop. the penetration where bullet entered behind front shoulder busted up ribs and ripped up lungs but never exited deer. he shoots a Remington 270. next day I shoot a 10 point at 208 yards could hear the hit. went looked for deer for 1 hour no blood nowhere could see where ground was messed up where he stood followed where he ran until he could no longer be seen no blood anywhere. we all but gave up saying maby bullet hit rock on ground. started walking back to jeep and buck was laying in ditch 10 feet from drivers door. 200 yards from where i shot him. on ground was blood coming out his mouth. no blood on any part of his body. glowed out heart. no exit again no blood nowhere. I shoot a weatherby 270.
both of us shoot hornedy 145grain precision hunter

what's up with this shell. I want a bullet that is reliable and go through deer and leave a blood trail has anyone had this happen and what shells should I try

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#6982986 - 12/04/17 07:34 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Registered: 10/16/07
Posts: 9476
Loc: Arlington, Tx/Coke Cnty
Did you find the bullets since there wasn't an exit?

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#6983001 - 12/04/17 07:40 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Light Foot

Registered: 11/28/17
Posts: 19
yes stuck in skin opposite side the bullet mushroomed a little all plastic tip was gone and did major damage inside where bullet went in on both deer hole was the size of a number 2 pencil and no blood except internal

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#6983003 - 12/04/17 07:41 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Registered: 09/27/06
Posts: 22385
Loc: Texas
Get some ammo with partitions or accubonds and you will have an exit for blood trails
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#6983007 - 12/04/17 07:44 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Light Foot

Registered: 11/06/16
Posts: 24
My family has always had really good results shooting Sierra GameKing bullets. My father in law has hand loaded them for years. we have used them in 6mm, 7mm mag, 7mm-08, .30-06, .270, .223, and .308. I am just now beginning to get into reloading myself. I will be running these same bullets because I have first hand seen the effects. They are reasonably priced, very accurate, bullet always passes through and almost everything we have shot with them has dropped within 10 yards. That doesn't mean that there isn't something better, but this is what we use and love.

I believe there are a couple of manufacturers that produce a whole round using the Sierra Game Kings. I'm not sure how these perform because I've never shot them, but I would assume they would do pretty well.


Edited by jbseamus83 (12/04/17 07:46 PM)

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#6983026 - 12/04/17 07:55 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Registered: 04/24/13
Posts: 658
I favor Barnes bullets. Some flavor of all copper.

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#6983051 - 12/04/17 08:02 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Bird Dog

Registered: 10/12/11
Posts: 280
Loc: West Texas
Just my opinion

I personally don’t like BT bullets. Seems every deer or pig I have shot with them has a small entry hole and no exit. I lung/heart shoot deer. Best shot for that animal in my opinion. My last buck weight 190 and he only ran about 15 yards. Shot him with a core loc 180g 30-06. Had a 2” exit wound and blew out both lungs.

The last deer I shot with a BT, was a bad experience. Same shot location but ended up shooting him 3 times. Shot 1 was a low lung shot. Thru and thru. Dropped straight down and I waited 45mins before I went after him. He jumped up and ran. Shot him the back rump. Dropped again. Waited another 30 mins and walked up to him again. Got up and tried to run. Shot him in the back of the neck for the final kill shot.
The rump shot had no small amount on entry and exploded the rump. The neck shot had no blood on entry and exit would was 1” exit.

I have very consistent results with the core loc ammo. Mainly tested on pigs. Same shot placement on pigs will have a pinky finger size hole but no exit but a lot of blood. However, in the few cases they do run, I have been able to pickup a blood trail within 25 yards and have found every kill. BTs on pigs will not leave any blood trails and have lost several animals shooting different calibers. Bonus also is that they are only about $1 per shot.

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#6983081 - 12/04/17 08:14 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Registered: 02/09/13
Posts: 815
Loc: Palo Pinto county
Wow that's odd the Precision Hunter ammo from Hornady is loaded with the ELD-X bullet. I've shot several deer,pigs and coyotes from 50-350 yards and everyone a pass through with a big exit. I hand load for a 6.5x47 using the 143 grain ELD-X . You might try the 150 grain Hornady soft point . I've had really good luck with Sierra Gamekings as well.

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#6983097 - 12/04/17 08:24 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: Cattleman]
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Originally Posted By: Cattleman
Wow that's odd the Precision Hunter ammo from Hornady is loaded with the ELD-X bullet. I've shot several deer,pigs and coyotes from 50-350 yards and everyone a pass through with a big exit. I hand load for a 6.5x47 using the 143 grain ELD-X . You might try the 150 grain Hornady soft point . I've had really good luck with Sierra Gamekings as well.


If that’s the bullet used in that cartridge, I am likewise surprised.

Not every shot is the same and funny things happen, but time in and time out that bullet out of a .270 should penetrate well and exit on most shots on deer - much moreso than some of the others mentioned as alternatives.
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#6983100 - 12/04/17 08:26 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: TX Hitman]
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Registered: 09/30/13
Posts: 839
Loc: Needville Tx.
Originally Posted By: TX Hitman
Just my opinion

I personally don’t like BT bullets. Seems every deer or pig I have shot with them has a small entry hole and no exit. I lung/heart shoot deer. Best shot for that animal in my opinion. My last buck weight 190 and he only ran about 15 yards. Shot him with a core loc 180g 30-06. Had a 2” exit wound and blew out both lungs.

The last deer I shot with a BT, was a bad experience. Same shot location but ended up shooting him 3 times. Shot 1 was a low lung shot. Thru and thru. Dropped straight down and I waited 45mins before I went after him. He jumped up and ran. Shot him the back rump. Dropped again. Waited another 30 mins and walked up to him again. Got up and tried to run. Shot him in the back of the neck for the final kill shot.
The rump shot had no small amount on entry and exploded the rump. The neck shot had no blood on entry and exit would was 1” exit.

I have very consistent results with the core loc ammo. Mainly tested on pigs. Same shot placement on pigs will have a pinky finger size hole but no exit but a lot of blood. However, in the few cases they do run, I have been able to pickup a blood trail within 25 yards and have found every kill. BTs on pigs will not leave any blood trails and have lost several animals shooting different calibers. Bonus also is that they are only about $1 per shot.


I have used remington core loct for 30+ years and have had very good success. Actually never shot anything else for deer or hogs.

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#6983110 - 12/04/17 08:32 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Registered: 05/04/15
Posts: 1805
Loc: Denton County
I shot two does over Thanksgiving weekend, 100 yards plus. Using 270 with 150 soft points by Remington Core Locks. One front shoulder DRT, the other front chest DRT. The front shoulder shot when skin was total distroyed had to throw it away.
I use them in 3006 and 308 no problem.

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#6983130 - 12/04/17 08:41 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: TX Hitman]
jbseamus83 Offline
Light Foot

Registered: 11/06/16
Posts: 24
If I don't have any Game Kings loaded up, I shoot core-lokt ammo as well. Had good results with it as well, and you can't beat the price.

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#6983139 - 12/04/17 08:47 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Bird Dog

Registered: 11/25/16
Posts: 374
Loc: Hunt county Texas.
It is different for everybody I prefer to load 120 grain HP in my 7 mag and 90 grain in 25-06 seldom do they exit and so many clean kills on deer. I consider hogs different heavier partition would be my choice.
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#6983150 - 12/04/17 08:57 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Registered: 12/30/12
Posts: 5437
Loc: Helotes, Hext
If you did indeed blow the heart to pieces, there may have been no trail because the blood pump the was shut off. Even with a complete pass through you may get nothing but blood dribbling out but not the pumping spray that you are looking for. A good lung shot that takes out some arteries (maybe only injures the heart) will leave you a beautiful blood trail, especially with a complete pass through, you will have blood squirting everywhere. We have tracked heart shot deer 200-300 yards, it is amazing how far they can go with their heart blew to shreds, and not find a drop of blood. I have seen some heart shot that didn't really rip up the heart too bad and it kept pumping so the blood trail was better. Even had some beautiful pass through broadheads cut through the heart and it stopped, and the deer still made it a long ways with no or minuscule blood trail.
Sounds like you made a good shot.
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#6983153 - 12/04/17 08:58 PM Re: I need help with bullets [Re: plumber]
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Registered: 01/10/09
Posts: 7305
Loc: Ony the Shadow Knows
Sierra, Barnes are good too, but my gun doesn't shoot them as good as the gameking... I have shot the Nozler ballistic tip too and they are good on Whitetail.
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