Russ, thats my point...... I wasn't trying being a dck you'd know if that was the case. my point was that whenever someone bring up a spike to a booner its one in a "million" that the person bringing it up is the one who shot it giant buck that used to be a spike.

I wasn't inferring that BOBO's friend didn't exist or that he was lying....... its just so rare that the occurrence of the "spike/giant and hunter only referred to as I read it.... or so and so's friend or my friend are usually the case...

There are tons of examples of it out there if you look. In my bubbies case his ranch is fenced, so he has had the means and ability to tag and or isolate deer.

The deer cable took is part of a study that I don’t know if it’s published yet.

Let’s change the conversation to do you think a random hill country deer can compete with a document Stx stud.

Or how about playing by the numbers, not what one deer here did or one deer there did... Do fork antlered (non spikes) typically grow to be better higher scoring deer than their spike antlered peers?

Or how about playing by the numbers, not what one deer here did or one deer there did... Do fork antlered (non spikes) typically grow to be better higher scoring deer than their spike antlered peers?

I have done an about face in regards to shooting spikes. Early in my career I believed they were genetically inferior and had no qualms about shooting them. I am a low fence guy and never had the ability to track what would become of one as he matured. Some years ago the unique opportunity was dropped in my lap. We noticed a year and a half old spike and he was white. The word went out for nobody to shoot "Whitey". Whitey was put on the shoot list at age 6. He was a 20" wide 160" 10 point when he was harvested. I might add the lucky hunter who took him did a full body mount. That lone incident caused me to reevaluate my position and I no longer shoot young spikes. My simplistic conclusion from that lone case is that deer are like people. Some are slower to mature than others and some just don't have it genetically. We now wait till age 4 to cull.

Well, I don't hunt antlers just meat so... don't care one way or another. All I know is "never say never". Anyone that is too far to either end of the spectrum just cannot approach anything with an open mind.

Russ

If inches are comparable then we need to cull entire populations and restock.

I didn’t need Kerr to tell me an infant mason county spike can’t compete inches to inches with an already proven 170” Webb country breeder buck.

What’s next comparing Terrell county mule deer to Sonora Mex. breeder buck?

you are rambling... and making no logical comparison.... a spike from any region will not compete w a 170" deer from any region.......

If I owned a ranch and had 20 1.5 yr old bucks and 18 of them were fork horns or better and 2 were spikes id shoot the spikes to give the fork horns or better less competition for food.

Here's something that no one has been able to adequately explain to me, and I'm real curious: For many other species of deer, the 1.5 yo bucks have spikes their first year. Fallow deer, Elk, etc. These deer go on to produce major antler growth. Why is the WT so different that all 1.5yo spikes are inferior?

never did i reference the Kerr study, I'm not interested in saving exception or even waiting to see one develop...... now w/ that said, should I loose 95% of "my" deer to anthrax on my LF ranch, yeah spikes will probably get a pass for a bit but not long...... but that would be square one...

Where is STX Hunter when you need him