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#6982094 - 12/04/17 10:20 AM A Texas trophy
rickym Offline
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Now I completely understand the many differences in hunting areas across the state. Taking what you know, what would be the average Texas low fence trophy. My guess would be a 4.5-5.5 year old- 135 inch 10 point. While theres plenty of places producing 150 6.5 year old 10 points, theres just as many if not more who consider a 110 3.5 year old 8 point a trophy.
So what do you say is THE AVERAGE TEXAS TROPHY?


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#6982128 - 12/04/17 10:36 AM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
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Trophy is in the eye of the beholder, and to me varies some by location.
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#6982151 - 12/04/17 10:57 AM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
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I'm only after mature 5+ yr old deer no matter where I hunt, but a "trophy" depends on the lease or area I'm hunting. I hunt 2 leases in different counties, about 60 miles apart. On one lease I regularly let 130 class bucks walk, waiting for something around 150. On the other lease if a 120 shows up I wouldn't think twice about it, I'd gladly take him.

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#6982156 - 12/04/17 11:00 AM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
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Originally Posted By: rickym
Now I completely understand the many differences in hunting areas across the state. Taking what you know, what would be the average Texas low fence trophy. My guess would be a 4.5-5.5 year old- 135 inch 10 point. While theres plenty of places producing 150 6.5 year old 10 points, theres just as many if not more who consider a 110 3.5 year old 8 point a trophy.
So what do you say?


I think you're assessment is right on. 30 years ago, the average mature deer in south Texas had 9 points and scored 125.

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#6982543 - 12/04/17 03:58 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: fouzman]
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: rickym
Now I completely understand the many differences in hunting areas across the state. Taking what you know, what would be the average Texas low fence trophy. My guess would be a 4.5-5.5 year old- 135 inch 10 point. While theres plenty of places producing 150 6.5 year old 10 points, theres just as many if not more who consider a 110 3.5 year old 8 point a trophy.
So what do you say?


I think you're assessment is right on. 30 years ago, the average mature deer in south Texas had 9 points and scored 125.


Given the Golden Triangle has been talked about for at least 40-50 years, I would have thought the average, for MATURE bucks, was better than that.
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#6982554 - 12/04/17 04:04 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: QuitShootinYoungBucks]
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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: rickym
Now I completely understand the many differences in hunting areas across the state. Taking what you know, what would be the average Texas low fence trophy. My guess would be a 4.5-5.5 year old- 135 inch 10 point. While theres plenty of places producing 150 6.5 year old 10 points, theres just as many if not more who consider a 110 3.5 year old 8 point a trophy.
So what do you say?


I think you're assessment is right on. 30 years ago, the average mature deer in south Texas had 9 points and scored 125.


Given the Golden Triangle has been talked about for at least 40-50 years, I would have thought the average, for MATURE bucks, was better than that.


Depends on how the ranch has been continuously culled out. If the average type deer don’t make it to maturity they aren’t counted in the average.

If you heavily cull to only raise the exception deer, your mature deer could average 160. Yes non heavy cull programs 125 is spot on from my experience




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#6982561 - 12/04/17 04:07 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: BOBO the Clown]
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: rickym
Now I completely understand the many differences in hunting areas across the state. Taking what you know, what would be the average Texas low fence trophy. My guess would be a 4.5-5.5 year old- 135 inch 10 point. While theres plenty of places producing 150 6.5 year old 10 points, theres just as many if not more who consider a 110 3.5 year old 8 point a trophy.
So what do you say?


I think you're assessment is right on. 30 years ago, the average mature deer in south Texas had 9 points and scored 125.


Given the Golden Triangle has been talked about for at least 40-50 years, I would have thought the average, for MATURE bucks, was better than that.


Depends on how the ranch has been continuously culled out. If the average type deer don’t make it to maturity they aren’t counted in the average.

If you heavily cull to only raise the exception deer, your mature deer could average 160. Yes non heavy cull programs 125 is spot on from my experience

That makes since.....
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#6982632 - 12/04/17 04:29 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: fouzman]
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: rickym
Now I completely understand the many differences in hunting areas across the state. Taking what you know, what would be the average Texas low fence trophy. My guess would be a 4.5-5.5 year old- 135 inch 10 point. While theres plenty of places producing 150 6.5 year old 10 points, theres just as many if not more who consider a 110 3.5 year old 8 point a trophy.
So what do you say?


I think you're assessment is right on. 30 years ago, the average mature deer in south Texas had 9 points and scored 125.


The average hasn't changed much.

Maybe 5" higher
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#6982815 - 12/04/17 06:01 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
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wow... no wonder the deer I see on camera keep disappearing.

too bad people don't let deer roll out so they can really see what they'll grow up to be.

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#6982845 - 12/04/17 06:15 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: BOBO the Clown]
fouzman Offline
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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: fouzman
Originally Posted By: rickym
Now I completely understand the many differences in hunting areas across the state. Taking what you know, what would be the average Texas low fence trophy. My guess would be a 4.5-5.5 year old- 135 inch 10 point. While theres plenty of places producing 150 6.5 year old 10 points, theres just as many if not more who consider a 110 3.5 year old 8 point a trophy.
So what do you say?


I think you're assessment is right on. 30 years ago, the average mature deer in south Texas had 9 points and scored 125.


Given the Golden Triangle has been talked about for at least 40-50 years, I would have thought the average, for MATURE bucks, was better than that.


Depends on how the ranch has been continuously culled out. If the average type deer don’t make it to maturity they aren’t counted in the average.

If you heavily cull to only raise the exception deer, your mature deer could average 160. Yes non heavy cull programs 125 is spot on from my experience



I won't typically name names, but Bill Maltsberger is the man who told me about the average mature deer being 125. He told me that 25 years ago. Bill culled heavily for decades and broke that mold, for the most part. Bill's observation was based on his own experience on 12,000 acres that had never been "managed" for trophy deer prior to the late 70's or early 80's. Even after all those years, his mature deer didn't average 160, but a BUNCH of them did and a couple made book almost every year in the 90's and beyond.

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#6982869 - 12/04/17 06:36 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
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Average and possible are two different things and many people get them confused. Just because a Ranch produces 165” deer, that in no way means that it is near the average. Even if it produces multiple 165” deer, chances are the average is much lower.

Across Texas, I would say the average is lower than the 135” ten pointer for mature deer simply because in many places, a 135” ten is well toward the top of the deer that are produced by certain regions.
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#6982885 - 12/04/17 06:41 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
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I'll go farther than that. Most Texas hunters will never shoot a 135" 10 point buck.

I'd say the average trophy is a 110" 8 pointer.

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#6982891 - 12/04/17 06:43 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: txshntr]
rickym Offline
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Registered: 06/14/15
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Loc: texas
Originally Posted By: txshntr
Average and possible are two different things and many people get them confused. Just because a Ranch produces 165” deer, that in no way means that it is near the average. Even if it produces multiple 165” deer, chances are the average is much lower.

Across Texas, I would say the average is lower than the 135” ten pointer for mature deer simply because in many places, a 135” ten is well toward the top of the deer that are produced by certain regions.


So whats your answer?
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#6982894 - 12/04/17 06:46 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
txshntr Offline
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Originally Posted By: rickym
Originally Posted By: txshntr
Average and possible are two different things and many people get them confused. Just because a Ranch produces 165” deer, that in no way means that it is near the average. Even if it produces multiple 165” deer, chances are the average is much lower.

Across Texas, I would say the average is lower than the 135” ten pointer for mature deer simply because in many places, a 135” ten is well toward the top of the deer that are produced by certain regions.


So whats your answer?


Honest guess, closer to around 115”
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#6982969 - 12/04/17 07:29 PM Re: A Texas trophy [Re: rickym]
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A buck in 120s was considered borderline trophy in South Texas 30-40 years ago before strict game management and prolific protein and supplement feeding programs.

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