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#6979351 - 12/01/17 06:57 PM I hate trimming
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Oh man, after annealing batches of 300 pieces of brass for 2 rifles, I tumbled, lube and full sizing, no problem and when its time to measure case length, I know what's coming and its trimming!!!! I hate trimming!!! I removed the handle on my RCBS case trimmer and hooked up a drill to it, it speeds it up, but I hate to measure each one to make sure on right length after the trim and deburrs case mouths.

I want to upgrade. how about a Giraud? Anyone use the Giraud, not sure about the Little Crow Gunworks World's Finest Trimmer, or any trimmer that trims fast and deburrs case mouths automatically? Any pro and cons? Any trimmers I should stay away from?

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#6979377 - 12/01/17 07:29 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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Giraud is bad to the bone!
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#6979390 - 12/01/17 07:41 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: dee]
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Originally Posted By: dee
Giraud is bad to the bone!


Just noticed that you need to adjust the cutting blade for each caliber change. It takes several cases before you get it right?


Edited by TackDriver (12/01/17 07:49 PM)

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#6979396 - 12/01/17 07:50 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: dee]
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Originally Posted By: dee
Giraud is bad to the bone!


50 cases, in 5 minutes. Trimmed, chamfered, debured.
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#6979398 - 12/01/17 07:51 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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Originally Posted By: TackDriver
Originally Posted By: dee
Giraud is bad to the bone!


Just noticed that you need to adjust the cutting blade for each caliber change. It takes several cases before you get it right?


Not after you've done it a few times. Last week I went from 6.5mm to 7mm in one try.
Or you can buy multiple cutter heads to swap out as needed.
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#6979517 - 12/01/17 09:58 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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You canít beat a Giraud. After you set it up and learn how to use it... itís on the money

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#6980061 - 12/02/17 02:18 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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I have the worlds finest trimmer and you still have to debut afterwards. It is super consistent though. I mostlymlike the tool.
Never even heard of the other one u mentioned. Iím still relatively new to reloading.

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#6980660 - 12/03/17 06:28 AM Re: I hate trimming [Re: Korean Redneck]
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Originally Posted By: TackDriver
Oh man, after annealing batches of 300 pieces of brass for 2 rifles, I tumbled, lube and full sizing, no problem and when its time to measure case length, I know what's coming and its trimming!!!! I hate trimming!!! I removed the handle on my RCBS case trimmer and hooked up a drill to it, it speeds it up, but I hate to measure each one to make sure on right length after the trim and deburrs case mouths.


Originally Posted By: Korean Redneck
I have the worlds finest trimmer and you still have to debut afterwards. It is super consistent though. I mostlymlike the tool.
Never even heard of the other one u mentioned. Iím still relatively new to reloading.


No doubt that the Giraud is a top line trimmer but it might not fit everybody's reloading or be within their budget. I'm reloading 48 different firearms chambered in 28 different cartridges, all styles of pistol and rifle cartridges. Almost all of my rifle cartridges use non-SAAMI trim lengths. I wanted to throw primer pocket beveling and uniforming into the mix as well as I only wanted to handle a cartridge once and not come back to it.

I bought this Lyman Case Prep Xpress in December in 2015, all nice and new, but it is still turning after approximately 10K cases. To be exact, not counting cases that have been tossed, 10,504 cases.



I went off the Lyman reservation and mounted a Lee Treaded Cutter Adapter at the 12 o'clock position, you must epoxy the treaded stock into the body or it will eventually work loose, and use the Lee Case Length Gauges. Custom Length Gauges are $16; they went up a buck in the last year. That eliminates any adjustment issues between required case lengths within a given cartridge. For instance, I have five different rifles in a specific cartridge and each requires a different case length. All have custom gauges, and I'm in it, without any adjustment of the cutter, for $75.

I did time my operations last winter when I prepped my handgun cases, all five functions, for progressive reloading and I was able to maintain a rate of 200 cases per hour.
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#6981237 - 12/03/17 04:22 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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Just timed it. 50 .308 Win cases took 4:30 to trim, chamfer, debur.
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#6981303 - 12/03/17 05:27 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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Four and a half freekin HOURS? Damn.
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#6981304 - 12/03/17 05:28 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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trout
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#6981313 - 12/03/17 05:37 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: TackDriver]
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The Giraud is $459.99! I'll stick with my Lee setup.
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#6981366 - 12/03/17 06:18 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: RiverRider]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Four and a half freekin HOURS? Damn.


Minutes foo !
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#6981370 - 12/03/17 06:20 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: postoak]
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Originally Posted By: postoak
The Giraud is $459.99! I'll stick with my Lee setup.


10,000 cases a year, I really have no buyer's remorse. I trimmed 150 pieces this afternoon, so 13 minutes and 30 seconds. The lathe, and hand chamfer debur tool, that 150 cases would have taken 150 minutes, 2 1/2 hours.
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#6981376 - 12/03/17 06:24 PM Re: I hate trimming [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Four and a half freekin HOURS? Damn.


Minutes foo !


grin

I knew...just wanted to yank your chain.
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