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Killing Coyotes, Bobcats, Mountain Lions, etc.... #6974129 11/27/17 08:33 PM
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This came up this weekend. I personally have no desire to kill a bobcat, mountain lion, armadillo, etc... when I am hunting just for the sake of shooting something. I have known some hunters that will shoot at animals like that if they come out while they are deer hunting. I guess I never got it. There was another family at the lease this weekend and the boy (in his late 20's) started talking about trying to shoot a bobcat that came out at his stand but he could never get a clear shot. The dad asked him why did he want to shoot it. His answer was just because. Not a good answer and a hunting ethics conversation proceeded between the two. The dad said he had watch 2 bobcats play in a clearing that morning while there were deer under the feeder. Where I will perform what I call an "extermination hunt" is for coyotes and hogs. The coyotes have killed our calves and the hogs...well that's obvious. What's your thoughts.....


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Coyotes and hogs get shot on sight.....cats, fox, and other animals get a pass......


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Re: Killing Coyotes, Bobcats, Mountain Lions, etc.... [Re: SnakeWrangler] #6974160 11/27/17 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted By: SnakeWrangler
Coyotes and hogs get shot on sight.....cats, fox, and other animals get a pass......


That's pretty much my policy as well.


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Bobcats and feral cats are shot on our place, just like the coyotes.


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Coyotes and pigs always get some lead.

In most cases I wont shoot a bobcat, but we are trying to get our quail population back up, and after seeing that video of the cat taking down a doe, I dont think I will feel too bad about pulling the trigger next time one crosses my path..

I dont think I would be able to pass on a Mountain Lion either.

Foxes (been a long time since i've seen one), armadillos, skunks, etc always get a pass.

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Coyotes hit our livestock pretty hard-they never get a pass. We don't have any red foxes that I'm aware of but they're in the same boat. I don't think any other varmints bother our stock, so they all get a pass.


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its the mentality of some people to "just shoot something"


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Originally Posted By: SnakeWrangler
Coyotes and hogs get shot on sight.....cats, fox, and other animals get a pass......


Completely agree! Don't really care if I mess up my deer/turkey hunt. Coyotes and pigs die. I will add, so do skunks and raccoons, but maybe not at the expense of messing up hunting.

Fox and bobcats get to live unmolested. I regularly have both around and greatly enjoy watching fox pounce on the field mice and rats!


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Out of thousands of trail cam pics on our place we have seen one bobcat and one fox. I wouldn't shoot either one. Coyotes and hogs better cut a wide path around me because they're gonna get shot at.


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Re: Killing Coyotes, Bobcats, Mountain Lions, etc.... [Re: colt45-90] #6974224 11/27/17 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: colt45
its the mentality of some people to "just shoot something"


i wouldn't exactly say that. i'm sure are some that shoot anything that moves.
i do know that where i hunt (and have hunted) that if i see predators i won't
be seeing deer. they'll move on to some place where they feel safe.
when i see hogs or hog sign where i hunt, i know that the big cat(s) are
around and no deer will show. this has been the case for the last decade or so.
i don't shoot armadillos. in my area, armadillos don't eat fawns or calves
or pets or turkeys like predators do. if i can, if i see a predator i shoot it.
if i want to see predators frolic and cut up, i'll watch a nature program on yoofloob.

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Coyotes and pigs shot onsite, everything else gets a pass for the most part.


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I shoot all hogs, coyotes, dogs, and coons. I killed one bobcat, got it mounted, so have no need to kill another and have seen several at my place. I would like to kill a fox though to get a mount done.

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Originally Posted By: DirtNapTET
Coyotes and pigs always get some lead.

In most cases I wont shoot a bobcat, but we are trying to get our quail population back up, and after seeing that video of the cat taking down a doe, I dont think I will feel too bad about pulling the trigger next time one crosses my path..

I dont think I would be able to pass on a Mountain Lion either.

Foxes (been a long time since i've seen one), armadillos, skunks, etc always get a pass.


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Originally Posted By: chalet
Coyotes and pigs shot onsite, everything else gets a pass for the most part.


up Even coyotes may get a walk depending on circumstances.

Pigs never ever get a pass no matter what.

Getting to see a fox or a bobcat is a real treat.

Have only seen mountain lions twice, both times in Big Bend NP, and that was an incredible sight.

Also, I do not kill snakes, unless they are venomous and close to areas with lots of people especially children, such as a house.



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We shoot bobcats equally as coyotes. They are the bobwhite quails number one land predator.
If we saw a mountain lion we would shoot it. First reason it would be a rare and beautiful trophy. Next the are big cats that can and do kill cattle with ease.
Never shoot grey foxes they are great mousers. Have a family that lives in woodpile by the house. The kits are a blast to watch in the spring.

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If you have ever owned livestock, your opinions of that nice little kitty and a lot of animals would be different. They are called predators for a reason.


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Originally Posted By: dogcatcher
If you have ever owned livestock, your opinions of that nice little kitty and a lot of animals would be different. They are called predators for a reason.


I was thinking the same thing. Ranchers aren't very fond of cats, yotes or hogs.

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Hell i not only let them go, but try to point them towards those damn cows.

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If it is legal and someone wants to shoot it then have at it. Personally I will let fox and bobcats walk unless I plan to mount it. I kill ever raccoon, coyote, and hog I see.

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If I'm hunting deer, the only thing that I will shoot is a coyote. May change to include bobcat after seeing one take down a yearling.

I will shoot hogs after deer season, or when I'm done hunting deer for the day...

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My wife and I, both coming from a ranching background, rarely let predators walk. Coyotes were shot on sight. Bobcats will decimate a quail population before you know it, especially a family of Bobcats. You should see what a Bobcat can do when it gets into a chicken coop. My grandmother lost 15 chickens that night. Foxes like chicken meat too. Coons rarely get a pass either. I wish there was a market for furs again.

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You shouldn’t let any kind of predator walk. I’ll kill them just to watch them die.

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I have shot one bobcat and one fox because I wanted a mount for each. I won’t ever shoot another.

I shoot coyotes and hogs all year. Since I own the place and shoot them all year, I sometimes won’t shoot one if I’m deer hunting and it’s prime time. Deer hunting takes priority for me. I do keep a little .17HMR in the stand and will kill them if it’s not prime time and/or the deer aren’t moving.

Shooting hogs makes me feel better, but it’s really just farting in the wind. I trap them in the winter/spring - that does actually make a difference. I figure shooting coyotes helps at least a little bit, but am probably kidding myself.

I would probably shoot a mountain lion on my place just because it’s legal. They should probably be protected east of I35 though since they are so few and far between.


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Coyotes, hogs and lions all get shot though I have never seen a lion when hunting deer. I have called up a couple and seen another when filling feeders several years ago. I do hunt lions with my hounds and tree a few out west but only kill the big toms or females.
I rarely shoot a bobcat, even when I call them up unless I am instructed by the rancher to do so. I am not sure that I know a deer hunter who would pass on a lion when sitting in a stand...
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