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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/05/17 04:22 AM
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I know the Seekins, Burris XTR & Talley are aluminum. I believe the others are steel. Talley claims these are billet. From Talley: "Heavy-duty scope rings are precision-machined from solid billet aluminum with dual recoil lugs to ensure your tactical scope won’t budge under the heaviest recoil. Full-width ring caps are cut from the same billet as the bottom half of the ring for precise fit and held in place with four stainless steel Allen head screws that won’t work loose when properly tightened." Your rings were made on a Friday. F-it, use cast.
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/05/17 10:59 AM
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I know the Seekins, Burris XTR & Talley are aluminum. I believe the others are steel. Talley claims these are billet. From Talley: "Heavy-duty scope rings are precision-machined from solid billet aluminum with dual recoil lugs to ensure your tactical scope won’t budge under the heaviest recoil. Full-width ring caps are cut from the same billet as the bottom half of the ring for precise fit and held in place with four stainless steel Allen head screws that won’t work loose when properly tightened." Something ain't right about the information they put out. Cutting them from the same billet wouldn't have anything to do strength, as the compressive strength of any grade of aluminum wouldn't vary from billet to billet. If these are true Ø's and made as a single piece and then split, that may contribute to the fit, but then they would be made as oval to allow for the kerf when cut. Also, using a stainless steel fastener, in cast aluminum gives a mismatch on the strength characteristic; the fastener can handle a > torque. I've never bought these, but would have. I may have missed it, but have we not agreed that these are cast, but sold as machined from billet stock?
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/05/17 11:58 AM
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I do agree they're cast yet sold as billet!
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/05/17 12:54 PM
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55-65 in-lbs is a fair bit when talking about aluminum threads. I've stripped aluminum threads when tightening down a valve cover with about that much torque.
At least they're sending you a pair of black ones for now.
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/05/17 01:52 PM
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55-65 in-lbs is a fair bit when talking about aluminum threads. I've stripped aluminum threads when tightening down a valve cover with about that much torque.
At least they're sending you a pair of black ones for now. I'm just doing what they told me. If they sai less than I'd do it less. I sent them the model of my rings and rail and they replied with: "25inlbs in the gun 20inlbs on caps screw and 65inlbs on nut Thanks"
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/05/17 02:16 PM
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My point was that I'm surprised they had you torque it that much.
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/06/17 03:13 PM
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I removed the rail, cleaned all bolts to remove any oil and reinstalled everything w/new Loctite 242. I torqued everything to Talley's spec's again, except I did ring to rail nuts to 60 instead of their recommended 65 in./lbs. I'll give it 72+ hrs. to set up then take this rig out and see if the scope still functions properly. I'll post back with my findings and what Talley says about the broken FDE ones I'm sending back to them.
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/16/17 12:54 AM
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Re: What Happened To My Scope Rings?
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12/16/17 05:19 PM
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I worked 99 hours in the last 5 days so I've been too busy to go shoot. I will this week. Talley hasn't told me anything yet.
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