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#6971394 - 11/24/17 03:26 PM Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess
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I have looked through and shot through all of them, and have an old Ziess Davari and a couple of Leupold's. I would like to get a new scope to replace the Weaver K6 on a 22-250 I just acquired. What do y'all think about the above three brands and why one over the other. I tend to lean to Leupold strictly on price, but this is a forever scope as I will never get rid of the gun.

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#6971397 - 11/24/17 03:28 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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Which Zeiss would you be looking into getting?
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#6971426 - 11/24/17 04:18 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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It really depends on you. As far as glass Swaro has the best in my opinion. So top of line of list Swaro, Zeiss then Leupy. I would stay away from Zeiss Conquest line...

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#6971455 - 11/24/17 04:59 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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It wouldn't be a Swiss conquest. They are junk imo

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#6971493 - 11/24/17 05:58 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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Kinda depends on how much you want to spend.

A Leupold VX3i is a very good scope at a very reasonable price if you donít dial. I have some version of a VX3 on several of my rifles - and I donít plan to ever take them off. Itís kinda my ďstandardĒ riflescope. I have older Zeiss Conquests on a couple of rifles but hear the newer ones are not nearly as good as mentioned above.

It goes up from there. I just put a Swaro ZX5 on my old .270 and am happy with it. Hear raves about the Z6s and new VX6 HD from Leupold.
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#6971503 - 11/24/17 06:10 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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I recently bought both.....Swaro Z5 and Leupold VX-6HD. I sold the Swaro about a month after I bought it and got a second VX-6HD. The glass is better IMO, the scope has better features, is more well built, and was brighter to my eyes. Also has a 30mm tube rather than 1Ē like the Swaro. Also, the Swaro came with a crappy scope bungee cord for the covers while the Leupold has much nicer screw on flip up caps. Also the Leupold has locking turrets and easier adjustments and came with illuminated reticle. I just wasnít impressed with the Swaro for what it costs although it is about 3 oz lighter.

Also recently bought a VX-5HD which is a great scope as well, but with a few less features than the VX-6.

After looking through a Zeiss I ruled it out pretty quickly, it did not compare well at all to the other two.

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#6971678 - 11/24/17 09:34 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DocHorton]
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Looks like DocHorton summed up all the answers for this thread.
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#6971765 - 11/25/17 12:33 AM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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Not really....I would like to hear which specific Zeiss model Doc looked at that would not compare favorably with that Leupold and that Swarovski.
If it was a Terra or the latest rendition of the Conquest HD5 ( not the brand new V6), I can understand.
The higher end Zeiss HT, Victory and the older Diavari are definitely alpha glass that can hang with any of the top end stuff.

It is difficult to make a recommendation to the OP based solely on a caliber designation. Rifle could be a dainty sporter or be plumbed with a truck axle.
When I hear 22-250, I think small targets at distance which would beg for a higher mag scope with a fine reticle at minimum. Then to decide if reliable tracking is necessary or if this will be a set and forget proposition.

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#6971780 - 11/25/17 04:19 AM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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Budget would be helpful too. A lot of difference between $500 and $1500+.
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#6971810 - 11/25/17 06:19 AM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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I have a vx 6 and can't stand the dang thing but love my z5 running real close to my Burris which I do like better other than weight

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#6971945 - 11/25/17 09:11 AM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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I donít remember which Zeiss it was, but it was in a similar price point, within a couple hundred dollars. It was significantly heavier and I just wasnít impressed. I also looked at Vortex HD LH. In the end I went with the VX-6HD, twice and a VX-5HD. I also think it was a noticeable upgrade over the previous VX-6 model and I looked at both. These were all purchased and compared in the last 4-5 months. For what I wanted: nice mag range, clarity, brightness, IR, lightweight, features....it suited me the best. I didnít consider any scopes that weighed 2 lbs as that was much heavier than I wanted and ruled out some other nice scopes. Also, I found the VX-6HD on Gunbroker for about $300 less than other retailers.

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#6972507 - 11/25/17 09:21 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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I would like to see the budget for Duckkiller as well. The newer Swarovski x5 series is excellent when you are comparing it to a Leupold vx6hd and lower line Zeiss offerings. I have had the Zeiss Diavari 6-24 and the Newer VX6HD line in the past but now own two X5iís due to glass and turrets. The repeatable turrets and the great low light on the x5iís made it the winner by a long shot. Then again it is a $2500 dollar scope so budget is pretty crucial for the comparison.


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#6974085 - 11/27/17 02:06 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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I had a Conquest on my 22-250 until this year when I moved it to my dadís .30-06. When we bought the scope, we were leaning Leupold VX3. I looked through both side by side and found the 44mm Zeiss to have a better picture and light gathering than the 50mm Leupold.

I believe the Swarovski to be the best glass of these three, under $3000.

Then again, Iím also the guy who bought Nikon over Vortex ($300 price point) for the same reasons.

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#6975296 - 11/28/17 02:17 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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I would be willing to spend up to about $1,500 on it. It's on a Rem 700 classic made in the 60's and is a factory gun with no tweaking yet. It was an inherited gun. Want to be able to shoot small targets out to about 400 yards with it and a 14 power max magnification.

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#6975366 - 11/28/17 03:21 PM Re: Leupold vs Swarovski vs Ziess [Re: DuckKiller2010]
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After reading some of the other comments, you just have to compare like priced scopes. Comparing a $2500 scope to a $1500 scope doesn't make sense, nor does comparing a $600 scope to a $1000 scope.

If your budget is $1500 then you are looking at VX-6HD, Swaro Z5, or Zeiss HD5/V6. I think the answer will become obvious once you look at those three and compare the glass and features, and those are the exact three scopes I compared when I purchased mine.

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