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#6969969 - 11/22/17 07:37 PM 0 wind in Am
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But itíll be colder than itís been in a while. Will birds be moving?
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#6969976 - 11/22/17 07:40 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Young Gun 12]
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#6970078 - 11/22/17 09:13 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Young Gun 12]
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It's not the wind that makes them move but it is the wind that makes them easier to predict and makes your spread look better.

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#6970095 - 11/22/17 09:27 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: BradyBuck]
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Originally Posted By: BradyBuck
It's not the wind that makes them move but it is the wind that makes them easier to predict and makes your spread look better.



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#6970104 - 11/22/17 09:39 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Young Gun 12]
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Better 0 wind than wrong wind
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#6970113 - 11/22/17 09:53 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Young Gun 12]
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I try to blind better from overhead with no wind. Ducks seem to make more circles over me.

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#6970149 - 11/22/17 10:29 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: BradyBuck]
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Originally Posted By: BradyBuck
It's not the wind that makes them move but it is the wind that makes them easier to predict and makes your spread look better.


Also easier to hide with wind, your movements are less noticeable with wind when things are blowing around.

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#6970175 - 11/22/17 11:16 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Young Gun 12]
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When no wind and your the only thing moving, you're toast.

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#6970183 - 11/22/17 11:33 PM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Blake E.]
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BlakeE, your a science major, Debate champ or Lettered in trivial pursuit?



Originally Posted By: Texas_ram
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When no wind and your the only thing moving with nothing more than binocolulors, journal, and field guid in hand, you're roast a birdwatcher.
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Fixed...

No wind, water smooth as glass, minimal/moderate spread of modeeks, if thereís birds, come before first light, theyíre going to feel the need to move.

Granted, glassy water poses several unique problems, but for the most part, easily remediated. Unless of course, youíre short a few key data points. Easily remeditiated, not so easily when hunting with mixed groups most of whom have own opinions and way of do thing.

Not thtI wonít change a specific MO when One of rare occasions arises when the lightbulb goes off.
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#6970195 - 11/23/17 12:19 AM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Guy
Originally Posted By: BradyBuck
It's not the wind that makes them move but it is the wind that makes them easier to predict and makes your spread look better.


Also easier to hide with wind, your movements are less noticeable with wind when things are blowing around.


Dude, you hunting regular season or falconry?


Most humans can see a slight, almost imperceptible 60hz flicker in fluorescent lightings in modearate light, the max for human eyes. Ducks have a retinal refresh rate estimated at 180+/- p/sec, possibly as high as 250+. A recent Naval research study that was funding avian visual acuity, particularly that of waterfowl, abruptly classified the reseach when the researchers discovered additional visual capabilities never before seen in any animal.

To put it succinctly, they have Visual capabilities similar to that of Raptors, albeit without thre benefit of binocular vision. But the deficit is minimal (and negligible), and mitigated by swiveling their heads left to right wile flying. given their field of view is 360 degrees allowing then to see any object regardless.

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#6970217 - 11/23/17 04:44 AM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: aerangis]
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Originally Posted By: aerangis
Originally Posted By: Guy
Originally Posted By: BradyBuck
It's not the wind that makes them move but it is the wind that makes them easier to predict and makes your spread look better.


Also easier to hide with wind, your movements are less noticeable with wind when things are blowing around.


Dude, you hunting regular season or falconry?


Most humans can see a slight, almost imperceptible 60hz flicker in fluorescent lightings in modearate light, the max for human eyes. Ducks have a retinal refresh rate estimated at 180+/- p/sec, possibly as high as 250+. A recent Naval research study that was funding avian visual acuity, particularly that of waterfowl, abruptly classified the reseach when the researchers discovered additional visual capabilities never before seen in any animal.

To put it succinctly, they have Visual capabilities similar to that of Raptors, albeit without thre benefit of binocular vision. But the deficit is minimal (and negligible), and mitigated by swiveling their heads left to right wile flying. given their field of view is 360 degrees allowing then to see any object regardless.


Your point is?

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#6970221 - 11/23/17 05:21 AM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Guy]
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Originally Posted By: Guy
Originally Posted By: aerangis
Originally Posted By: Guy
Originally Posted By: BradyBuck
It's not the wind that makes them move but it is the wind that makes them easier to predict and makes your spread look better.


Also easier to hide with wind, your movements are less noticeable with wind when things are blowing around.


Dude, you hunting regular season or falconry?


Most humans can see a slight, almost imperceptible 60hz flicker in fluorescent lightings in modearate light, the max for human eyes. Ducks have a retinal refresh rate estimated at 180+/- p/sec, possibly as high as 250+. A recent Naval research study that was funding avian visual acuity, particularly that of waterfowl, abruptly classified the reseach when the researchers discovered additional visual capabilities never before seen in any animal.

To put it succinctly, they have Visual capabilities similar to that of Raptors, albeit without thre benefit of binocular vision. But the deficit is minimal (and negligible), and mitigated by swiveling their heads left to right wile flying. given their field of view is 360 degrees allowing then to see any object regardless.


Your point is?


I think he means bring a jerk cord, but careful not to move your arm to jerk it

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#6970223 - 11/23/17 05:29 AM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Esh and Hattie]
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Originally Posted By: Esh and Hattie

I think he means bring a jerk cord, but careful not to move your arm to jerk it

I didn't see where anyone said anything about a jerk cord. My point is simply no wind, your movements are more detectable.

But on the jerk cord, I hate them, who wants to mess with that. I use a pulsator.


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#6970336 - 11/23/17 08:55 AM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Young Gun 12]
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Never mind

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#6970339 - 11/23/17 08:59 AM Re: 0 wind in Am [Re: Blake E.]
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Originally Posted By: Blake E.
Better 0 wind than wrong wind


Maybe-sunny and no wind can be great

Shrink them spreads add motion. I will take Wrong wind-make adjustments- ie shoot going away birds, rather than no wind at all.

Really depends on size of water your hunting.
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