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 Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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12/25/17 05:21 PM
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For the love of god Busheler learn to spell its a 6.5 Creedmoor not a 6.5 Kreedmire.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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12/25/17 11:32 PM
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I love my 17" 7mm08, shot a hog the other morning with it..
My t3X 308 CTR is getting chopped by Morgan and dropped into a McMillan carbon stock
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/25/17 11:48 PM
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For the love of god Busheler learn to spell its a 6.5 Creedmoor not a 6.5 Kreedmire. He can't hear you. Hint.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 01:16 AM
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too bad, I was really enjoying Busheler's style and knowledge. It livened up this Forum to say the least. Yup. He was very knowledgeable. I miss him too.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 01:24 AM
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too bad, I was really enjoying Busheler's style and knowledge. It livened up this Forum to say the least. Yup. He was very knowledgeable. I miss him too. I miss some of his pictures...
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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12/26/17 02:32 AM
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How much does it typically cost to chop a barrel down to 16” and can it be done to any rifle?
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 03:27 AM
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How much does it typically cost to chop a barrel down to 16” and can it be done to any rifle? Most will. If you are in the Dfw area look at class 3 machining
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 04:25 AM
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How much does it typically cost to chop a barrel down to 16” and can it be done to any rifle? To simply cut and recrown, a gunsmith doing it maybe $50. You can cut any rifle barrel down to 16" as long as it's over that to begin with. 
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 04:50 AM
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How much does it affect performance?
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 03:37 PM
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How much does it affect performance? You'll lose about 25-30fps an inch.
Just to make sure that it is done thoroughly, I go both ways.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 03:37 PM
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You lose a little velocity, in general, the bigger the caliber the less effect it has (a 308 would lose less velocity per inch than say a 22-250)
Accuracy won't suffer, a lot of times it will even improve as it is stiffer.
A rifle with a thin "sporter" barrel may need to be threaded to 22 cal specs and and adapter screwed on to accept a 30 cal silencer.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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12/26/17 03:59 PM
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The Berger Bullets reloading manual shows velocity loss (or gain) per inch of barrel for each cartridge listed.
For the 308 WIN they show 20 fps per inch.
For the 6.5 Creedmoor it's 25 fps per inch.
One shot is all it should take.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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01/19/18 03:12 AM
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I’ve been shooting 16” , .308’s for the last 8 yrs. They are so handy to hunt with suppresssed. I get 2655 out of 16” Proof Carbon bbl suppressed with Hornady Superformance 165 Sst’s. I can’t duplicate that velocity with any hand load I’ve put together. That load has drt’d any animal that has took one, furthest being 440 yds. I just don’t see myself going back to 24-26” rifles. .308 just doesn’t suffer velocity loss in short bbl’s as drastically as 6,6.5,and 7mm’s. As stated in this thread most people that want a short one, want one to hunt with suppressed at shorter ranges where the trajectory benefits of a Creedmoor isn’t going to matter. I like the Creed and see the advantages of the much higher bc projectiles at greater distances, but at relatively short distance, inside 3-400, take your pick.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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01/19/18 04:06 AM
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
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01/19/18 02:23 PM
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I’ve been shooting 16” , .308’s for the last 8 yrs. They are so handy to hunt with suppresssed. I get 2655 out of 16” Proof Carbon bbl suppressed with Hornady Superformance 165 Sst’s. I can’t duplicate that velocity with any hand load I’ve put together. That load has drt’d any animal that has took one, furthest being 440 yds. I just don’t see myself going back to 24-26” rifles. .308 just doesn’t suffer velocity loss in short bbl’s as drastically as 6,6.5,and 7mm’s. As stated in this thread most people that want a short one, want one to hunt with suppressed at shorter ranges where the trajectory benefits of a Creedmoor isn’t going to matter. I like the Creed and see the advantages of the much higher bc projectiles at greater distances, but at relatively short distance, inside 3-400, take your pick. yep Just built a 16" 308 bolt gun for this reason Had one, got rid of out as I had an 18" AR10 but I missed a lightweight/compact bolt 308 Of course, my 16" 6.8spc pretty much will handle anything inside most of my hunts which are 200 and under.
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Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
[Re: Anton Chigurh]
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01/28/18 01:10 AM
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I read this entire thread but it seemed to have strayed pretty far. Looking at chopping down my Ruger American Predator 6.5cm since I'm shooting it suppressed 100% of the time. That thing looks like a punt gun when I'm trying to get it out the blind window. Sounds like 16 or 16.5 inches is doable and should be fine for velocity and accuracy? Not shooting more than 300 yrds with it, ever.
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