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#6955495 - 11/11/17 10:07 AM 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ?
Anton Chigurh Offline
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Registered: 06/22/14
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Im enjoying the recent threads on short 7mm-08 rifles, and now I’m thinking on starting my own short, suppressed bolt gun. For hunting and general fun shooting.

I would most likely use a Tikka CTR as this will be most affordable way to get a barreled action that’s almost guaranteed to shoot. This limits my choices to 6.5 creed or 308. I have one in 6.5 cm already with a 20” barrel, but I think I still want a shorter one.

So for a handy 17” bolt gun, 308 or 6.5 ?

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#6955511 - 11/11/17 10:21 AM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
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6.5 Creedmoor.

Do you hand load?
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#6955538 - 11/11/17 10:37 AM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
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Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyy more than headstamps and nothing .308",will hang with a .264" 147 ELD...when talking like-ish powder capacity. Hell,an '06 won't hang with a Kreedmire,due the projectile mass incurred to equate a like BC.

'Course,I hate 308's and am cursed with a herd of 'em................

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#6955576 - 11/11/17 11:05 AM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Busheler]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
6.5 Creedmoor.

Do you hand load?


Yessir, I do

Originally Posted By: Busheler
Bullets matter wayyyyyyyyy more than headstamps and nothing .308",will hang with a .264" 147 ELD...when talking like-ish powder capacity. Hell,an '06 won't hang with a Kreedmire,due the projectile mass incurred to equate a like BC.

'Course,I hate 308's and am cursed with a herd of 'em................


Ok, y’all convinced me. Kreedmire it is then...

I’ll just need to decide whether 17” is enough of an improvement in handiness over my current 20” to warrant another rifle. I’ll be running a TBAC ultra 7, or an SAS Barricade.


Edited by Anton Chigurh (11/11/17 11:11 AM)

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#6955594 - 11/11/17 11:17 AM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
Busheler Offline
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17" all the way.

Who gives a [censored] about another click or two on the erector,at the 1000yd line or beyond.............

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#6955626 - 11/11/17 11:48 AM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
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for a shortie, I think a 308 is a better choice..
I am taking a CTR in 308 to 16"
my long range gun is a custom 6.5 Creedmoor and I am definitely a fan but I think for a shortie 308 makes better since. You might have seen my post about a 7mm08 17" project that I am very happy with.
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#6955634 - 11/11/17 11:55 AM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: ccoker]
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I have seen your recent posts Charles, as well as JGs. Both of these 7mm-08 builds look great and have me thinking along the same lines.

I’ll be looking forward to seeing what you do with your tikka 308

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#6955641 - 11/11/17 12:02 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
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Nothing wrong with a 16" .308. By the way, if you're chopping one, go as short as you can without SBR paperwork, which is 16". I wanted mine 16", but my Smith's lathe won't let him cut one that short. I have a 6" .308 but in an AR platform. When you lose barrel, you lose velocity, so I went with a 155 gr bullet, instead of my usual 178 gr in a .308 Win. It'll get the job done.
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#6955651 - 11/11/17 12:07 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
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All of my bolt action hunting rifles are 16.25". Makes for a handy package especially with a can. Unless you are hunting at extreme distances you won't miss the inches.

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#6955653 - 11/11/17 12:08 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: ccoker]
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Originally Posted By: ccoker
for a shortie, I think a 308 is a better choice..
I am taking a CTR in 308 to 16"
my long range gun is a custom 6.5 Creedmoor and I am definitely a fan but I think for a shortie 308 makes better since. You might have seen my post about a 7mm08 17" project that I am very happy with.



At like barrel lengths,the 308 can never begin to hang with a Kreedmire..............

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#6955658 - 11/11/17 12:10 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: FiremanJG]
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Nothing wrong with a 16" .308. By the way, if you're chopping one, go as short as you can without SBR paperwork, which is 16". I wanted mine 16", but my Smith's lathe won't let him cut one that short. I have a 6" .308 but in an AR platform. When you lose barrel, you lose velocity, so I went with a 155 gr bullet, instead of my usual 178 gr in a .308 Win. It'll get the job done.



147 ELD's absolutely DESTROY both of those .308" projectiles.

I love Skinners and shoot 'em a "smidge".(grin)



But there is no way to make a 308Win hang in the same Universe,as a Kreedmire.

None...............

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#6955661 - 11/11/17 12:11 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Busheler]
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Well, you are wrong, with your "none".
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#6955673 - 11/11/17 12:21 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
Busheler Offline
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Swing for the fence,it will be funny...............

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#6955698 - 11/11/17 12:40 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Busheler]
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First of all, you are not the only one around here that knows a thing or two, new guy. And it is alredy showing, you will not be here long. You, like some before you, are temporary, and won't even be a bad memory.

"hint...."

The .308 can deliver more energy than the 6.5 Creedmoor from the muzzle to 500 yards, depending on how both are loaded. Only after 500, does the 6.5 Creedmoor deliver more energy. And most people around here do not care about energy delivey past the quarter mile mark, because they won't be taking a shot that far anyway.
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#6955712 - 11/11/17 12:51 PM Re: 16-18” barrel bolt gun, .308 or 6.5 ? [Re: Anton Chigurh]
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If I were going the short barrel route think I would look at the 300 RCM... just to stir a little more.
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