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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: JJH] #6957708 11/13/17 03:32 AM
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: J.G.] #6957711 11/13/17 03:33 AM
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6X47 Lapua sounds interesting. as well. simple neck down for cases.


I'd think an ES below 10, reckon?


Easily with that cartidge. The guys I shoot Fclass with are all pretty much either 6BR, 6x47, or 6mm dasher because of the inherent accuracy of all 3. Only reason I would go .243win is because of less brass prep and a little more fps unless, kmon1 wants it for shooting paper only then I would choose one of the other 3. If you look at stats for Fclass wins the x47 and BR are neck and neck and both above the other 6mm's.

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6X47 Lapua sounds interesting. as well. simple neck down for cases.


I'd think an ES below 10, reckon?


Easily with that cartidge. The guys I shoot Fclass with are all pretty much either 6BR, 6x47, or 6mm dasher because of the inherent accuracy of all 3. Only reason I would go .243win is because of less brass prep and a little more fps unless, kmon1 wants it for shooting paper only then I would choose one of the other 3. If you look at stats for Fclass wins the x47 and BR are neck and neck and both above the other 6mm's.


No disrespect meant.

You are somewhat contradicting yourself.

Your .284 shoot super consistent on a mild load for the cartridge, yet consistency is more important.

And here, you are touting the BR and the X47 for their consistency. We all know, consistency trumps velocity. Most will sacrifice 50 fps MV, for a bullet that goes exactly where it is told to, every time. Botched animal shots are more from bad placement than lack of velocity.


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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: TackDriver] #6957769 11/13/17 04:08 AM
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: TackDriver] #6957786 11/13/17 04:22 AM
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Is necking down from 6.5 x 47 Lapua to 6 x 47 Lapua or from 6.5 Creed to 6 Creed pretty simple ? Do you use the 6 Creed full sizing die to down neck a 6.5 Creed Lapua brass to a 6 Creed? 6 x 47 full sizing die to down neck from 6.5 x 47? Non bushing or with bushing? I ask that because I like Lapua brass. Is just lubing it up and size away the only steps you do? I have never done it before though.

Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: TackDriver] #6957793 11/13/17 04:31 AM
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That is all I do on a couple wildcats. Run them through a FL Redding die, load them up and shoot. Not those calibers but same principle. that is unless the neck tolerance of the chamber is so that you need to turn the neck, but that would be up to your Smith and the reamer used for your chamber


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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: kmon11] #6957800 11/13/17 04:39 AM
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That is all I do on a couple wildcats. Run them through a FL Redding die, load them up and shoot. Not those calibers but same principle. that is unless the neck tolerance of the chamber is so that you need to turn the neck, but that would be up to your Smith and the reamer used for your chamber


No bushing? Just a standard FL die with expander button?

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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: TackDriver] #6957806 11/13/17 04:46 AM
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That is what I use for them, could also do with bushing dies, I just don't have any for those.


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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: kmon11] #6957814 11/13/17 05:01 AM
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That is what I use for them, could also do with bushing dies, I just don't have any for those.


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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: J.G.] #6957837 11/13/17 05:40 AM
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6X47 Lapua sounds interesting. as well. simple neck down for cases.


I'd think an ES below 10, reckon?


Easily with that cartidge. The guys I shoot Fclass with are all pretty much either 6BR, 6x47, or 6mm dasher because of the inherent accuracy of all 3. Only reason I would go .243win is because of less brass prep and a little more fps unless, kmon1 wants it for shooting paper only then I would choose one of the other 3. If you look at stats for Fclass wins the x47 and BR are neck and neck and both above the other 6mm's.


No disrespect meant.

You are somewhat contradicting yourself.

Your .284 shoot super consistent on a mild load for the cartridge, yet consistency is more important.

And here, you are touting the BR and the X47 for their consistency. We all know, consistency trumps velocity. Most will sacrifice 50 fps MV, for a bullet that goes exactly where it is told to, every time. Botched animal shots are more from bad placement than lack of velocity.


Not trying to contradict by any means sorry if it was taken the wrong way, what my .284 does is irrelevant to this post. I was just pointing out the advantages of the 4, .243 is easy to source and prep brass and a lil faster, the other 3 are more inherently accurate but somewhat PITA to prep brass.

Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: Judd] #6957890 11/13/17 12:01 PM
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The little br case would do everything you ask and everything any of the suggested calibers can do with less powder and more accuracy. If it was me I'd go with an improved...brx or dasher though.

Good luck!


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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: spg] #6957925 11/13/17 12:36 PM
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Are you meaning 243 versus the ones getting necked down? If so, I agree.

But when a fella can get 6mm Creedmoor brass, and just run it, I do not see any advantage to running a 243.


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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: TackDriver] #6958684 11/13/17 09:12 PM
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I've got 1800rds on a 6mm creed and will rebarrel it as the same. I think mines a fluke to have lived that long but it was extremely easy to load for. Everything was sub 10sd and sub .5 moa with hybrids or rdf and 4350, 4451 and rl23.


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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: Busheler] #6965208 11/19/17 12:34 AM
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build [Re: TackDriver] #6971095 11/24/17 01:51 PM
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