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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 03:32 AM
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 03:33 AM
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6X47 Lapua sounds interesting. as well. simple neck down for cases. I'd think an ES below 10, reckon? Easily with that cartidge. The guys I shoot Fclass with are all pretty much either 6BR, 6x47, or 6mm dasher because of the inherent accuracy of all 3. Only reason I would go .243win is because of less brass prep and a little more fps unless, kmon1 wants it for shooting paper only then I would choose one of the other 3. If you look at stats for Fclass wins the x47 and BR are neck and neck and both above the other 6mm's.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 03:43 AM
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6X47 Lapua sounds interesting. as well. simple neck down for cases. I'd think an ES below 10, reckon? Easily with that cartidge. The guys I shoot Fclass with are all pretty much either 6BR, 6x47, or 6mm dasher because of the inherent accuracy of all 3. Only reason I would go .243win is because of less brass prep and a little more fps unless, kmon1 wants it for shooting paper only then I would choose one of the other 3. If you look at stats for Fclass wins the x47 and BR are neck and neck and both above the other 6mm's. No disrespect meant. You are somewhat contradicting yourself. Your .284 shoot super consistent on a mild load for the cartridge, yet consistency is more important. And here, you are touting the BR and the X47 for their consistency. We all know, consistency trumps velocity. Most will sacrifice 50 fps MV, for a bullet that goes exactly where it is told to, every time. Botched animal shots are more from bad placement than lack of velocity.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 04:08 AM
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 04:22 AM
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Is necking down from 6.5 x 47 Lapua to 6 x 47 Lapua or from 6.5 Creed to 6 Creed pretty simple ? Do you use the 6 Creed full sizing die to down neck a 6.5 Creed Lapua brass to a 6 Creed? 6 x 47 full sizing die to down neck from 6.5 x 47? Non bushing or with bushing? I ask that because I like Lapua brass. Is just lubing it up and size away the only steps you do? I have never done it before though.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 04:31 AM
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That is all I do on a couple wildcats. Run them through a FL Redding die, load them up and shoot. Not those calibers but same principle. that is unless the neck tolerance of the chamber is so that you need to turn the neck, but that would be up to your Smith and the reamer used for your chamber
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 04:39 AM
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That is all I do on a couple wildcats. Run them through a FL Redding die, load them up and shoot. Not those calibers but same principle. that is unless the neck tolerance of the chamber is so that you need to turn the neck, but that would be up to your Smith and the reamer used for your chamber No bushing? Just a standard FL die with expander button?
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 04:46 AM
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That is what I use for them, could also do with bushing dies, I just don't have any for those.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 05:01 AM
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That is what I use for them, could also do with bushing dies, I just don't have any for those. Thanks Kevin.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 05:40 AM
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6X47 Lapua sounds interesting. as well. simple neck down for cases. I'd think an ES below 10, reckon? Easily with that cartidge. The guys I shoot Fclass with are all pretty much either 6BR, 6x47, or 6mm dasher because of the inherent accuracy of all 3. Only reason I would go .243win is because of less brass prep and a little more fps unless, kmon1 wants it for shooting paper only then I would choose one of the other 3. If you look at stats for Fclass wins the x47 and BR are neck and neck and both above the other 6mm's. No disrespect meant. You are somewhat contradicting yourself. Your .284 shoot super consistent on a mild load for the cartridge, yet consistency is more important. And here, you are touting the BR and the X47 for their consistency. We all know, consistency trumps velocity. Most will sacrifice 50 fps MV, for a bullet that goes exactly where it is told to, every time. Botched animal shots are more from bad placement than lack of velocity. Not trying to contradict by any means sorry if it was taken the wrong way, what my .284 does is irrelevant to this post. I was just pointing out the advantages of the 4, .243 is easy to source and prep brass and a lil faster, the other 3 are more inherently accurate but somewhat PITA to prep brass.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 12:01 PM
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The little br case would do everything you ask and everything any of the suggested calibers can do with less powder and more accuracy. If it was me I'd go with an improved...brx or dasher though.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 12:36 PM
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Are you meaning 243 versus the ones getting necked down? If so, I agree.
But when a fella can get 6mm Creedmoor brass, and just run it, I do not see any advantage to running a 243.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/13/17 09:12 PM
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I've got 1800rds on a 6mm creed and will rebarrel it as the same. I think mines a fluke to have lived that long but it was extremely easy to load for. Everything was sub 10sd and sub .5 moa with hybrids or rdf and 4350, 4451 and rl23.
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/19/17 12:34 AM
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Re: Which 6mm caliber to build
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11/24/17 01:51 PM
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