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#6949600 - 11/07/17 07:41 AM Question about long range rifle performance
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6.5 Creedmoor, 21" , very light contour barrel
140gr .062 BC, 2600fps. Not sure ES or SD
groups .50-.75" at 100 yards

hypothetically, how far should this gun shoot (hit 10" steel) @ .75 MOA?

Owner hasn't shot it past 100 yet.
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#6949675 - 11/07/17 08:25 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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This is why I was asking. This was my set up last weekend. I had out to 300yards all around. The 3-10 was good, I just like more power for a solid set up





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#6949677 - 11/07/17 08:25 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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How many rounds do I have?

Honestly, it depends on the shooter. .75 moa at 100 would be over 1 moa distance. I'd say 600-700 yards, with the right wind call and correct elevation. In a hunting situation, the first round (cold bore shot) is the most important shot. So, how do you perform on first round hits at that distance as a shooter with that equipment?

My rule of thumb is... If you practice and become proficient at 1000 yards, your max hunting distance should be about half that for first round hit reliability. If the environmental situations won't allow it (too windy, etc), then your distance would decrease.
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#6949696 - 11/07/17 08:35 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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A lot depends on the rifle and shooter, light weight rifles as you have discovered are not as easy to shoot accurately and barrels heat up quickly but the rifle should be good for 300+ if the shooter is.
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#6949706 - 11/07/17 08:40 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Stick to distances that have been shot with that rifle, scope, and load.

How it is doing at 100 yards may not correlate well how it will do at longer distances.

That scope does not appear to have parallax correction, which can have an effect at 300; not saying it will, just that it could.

Part of hunting is being mindful of avoiding causing unnecessary suffering of the animal.

So bottom line, stick to practiced and proven distances as a limit.


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#6949736 - 11/07/17 08:58 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
Owner hasn't shot it past 100 yet.



The gun will do lots of things, are you willing to do your due diligence and make sure you are capable of making an ethical shot that's fair to an animal?

It's usually not the gun holding anyone back, it's the idiot behind the trigger. And that goes for ALL of us.


Edited by Crews (11/07/17 09:32 AM)

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#6949786 - 11/07/17 09:24 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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There is a vast difference in Hypothetical and In Practice. Sounds like 100 yards is you max range with that rig at the moment.

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#6949812 - 11/07/17 09:35 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
140gr .062 BC, 2600fps. Not sure ES or SD


and explain to me how you know what your muzzle velocity is, but have no idea what the ES or SD is?

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#6949884 - 11/07/17 10:08 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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#6949974 - 11/07/17 10:49 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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if you have to ask 100 yards

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#6949991 - 11/07/17 10:59 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Crews]
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Originally Posted By: Crews
Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
140gr .062 BC, 2600fps. Not sure ES or SD


and explain to me how you know what your muzzle velocity is, but have no idea what the ES or SD is?


good question, I will have to go back to notes, give me a minute. I couldn't remember when I posted this.

I would go to 300 as is but never longer until I test at longer ranges with cold bore,

This target was shot once (cold bore), then I shot the .22 for an hour, then took the second cold bore shot, so, I'm comfy with CBS if I do my part of course



This was a test target ES = 5, SD = 2 but for only 3 shots. This is a hunting gun, not a long range monster, just needing to know if I switch optic to more power with dials and parallax adjustment. I will have to beg JG for some range time and test out to 500


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#6950009 - 11/07/17 11:10 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I shoot a 7 Rem. Mag it can shoot a lot better and further then I can lol
I limit myself to 400 yards cause at the range I can verify my drop and grouping and feel confident.
Also keep in mind shooting off a bench off sand bags is a lot different then shooting out in the field lol

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#6951373 - 11/08/17 09:19 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: jeffbird]
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Originally Posted By: jeffbird
Stick to distances that have been shot with that rifle, scope, and load.

How it is doing at 100 yards may not correlate well how it will do at longer distances.

That scope does not appear to have parallax correction, which can have an effect at 300; not saying it will, just that it could.

Part of hunting is being mindful of avoiding causing unnecessary suffering of the animal.

So bottom line, stick to practiced and proven distances as a limit.



I agree
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#6951378 - 11/08/17 09:24 AM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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The scope is the weak link, for shooting distance.

It usually is the weak link, for most rigs.
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#6951633 - 11/08/17 12:14 PM Re: Question about long range rifle performance [Re: Buzzsaw]
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I agree with you JG. I may upgrade and come see you
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