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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6950139 11/07/17 06:35 PM
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Hope for the best is right a friend of mine is on this third 6.5 barrel from them and the third shoots a great group of 8in or more at 100 yds with good ammo just like the first two . There's a reason their so quick to do returns . There's you tube videos with bore scopes of their barrels check them out .


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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: J.G.] #6950203 11/07/17 07:35 PM
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Of course he should put the pin back in fully and try that... horses before zebras and all, but I bet there is something else going on.


Nooowww, you've caught up. Seems like I said that a couple of days ago.

It costs zero dollars to put the pin back in. That is step number 1. If the rifle STILL doesn't shoot, then move onto rings, scope, ammo.

This place is exhausting sometimes.


You are correct that it is a zero dollar correction... but I wouldn't bet next weeks paycheck that it will be the fix.


That's fine, but should he skip it? Would you skip it?

Did I ever say to skip it? I just wouldn't bet the farm on that being the answer.

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6951150 11/08/17 12:35 PM
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Had a similar experience with my bca barrel as well. 18” 6.5 Grendel 1-8 5R Stainless. Best group I got out of it was 3.5” at 100yds. Tried hornady Black, federal fusion and American Eagle 90gr. Spoke with Frank from
Bca and he immediately suggested replacing the barrel. He told me that they are getting well under moa groups and that the 1” advertised was allowing for shooter error. BCA has been extremely helpful so far, hopefully the next barrel shoots better.

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6954701 11/10/17 10:04 PM
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Alright the upper is in the mail. Shot today and no better at all. Glad I checked it out with the pin all the way. Thanks for the help so far. Will keep yall updated when i get a new upper back in.

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6954930 11/11/17 01:29 AM
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Guessing from the comments it was not a free floated barrel? Too many internet snipers claiming 1 moa from their tactical cool setups with barrels that are neither HBAR profile or free floated. Throw them on a sand bag or with a sling attached and they shoot patterns as the barrel warms or sling tension changes as the hand guards interact with the barrel.


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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6955572 11/11/17 05:01 PM
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Krunchentickers are VERY simplistic,mechanically.

That being said,everything Vortex is more than suspect.

Hint..............

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6955588 11/11/17 05:14 PM
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I've seen barrel nuts come loose causing those kinds of issues. One or two shots fine then the gas tube gets moved.


One shot is all it should take.
Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6955592 11/11/17 05:16 PM
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I'd never "judge" ANY rifle,on a Vortex "finding"................

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956828 11/12/17 04:00 PM
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I will stick the Vortex back on my other 6.5 G and see what happens....I dont think that ms the case but might as well rule it out.

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956907 11/12/17 05:42 PM
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It is easy to arrange a methodical approach,to remove culprits from the list of mechanics. Folks tend to procure glass with much emotion and give credit,where it assuredly is not due.

Hint...................

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956937 11/12/17 06:04 PM
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I dont know why the last few statements have gave the impression that I am some sort of Vortex lover...yall seem to be pushig that idea pretty hard. I simply said it worked fine on my other rifle, that I didnt believe it to be that. I could completely be wrong and I know that without a doubt. But holy crap yall are pushing it like I have been arguing with yall...

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956941 11/12/17 06:07 PM
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Only you,can control your Estrogen levels and the Emotion(s) generated.

Hardly a big deal,to prove an Optic,when diagnosing a sick platform.

Shoot more,Whine less.

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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956957 11/12/17 06:24 PM
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Surely you are on the wrong post. I am far from whining...it seems like the logical thing to do when im under a 30 day warranty, i hear other people have had the same issue, and used an optic that was proven on another rifle.

Get it.....

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956960 11/12/17 06:26 PM
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I miss nothing. Hint.

You are the one asking questions...not me.

Re-hint.

Slow your roll,be methodical,instead of making crazy moves less any reasoning.

Re-re-hint...........

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956961 11/12/17 06:26 PM
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Reset the rail then reset the scope... highly doubt anything is actually wrong with the scope especially if your only shooting at 100yrds.. no scope is that bad

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956963 11/12/17 06:29 PM
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Oh my.

Never been tough to cypher who shoots and who don't.

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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956966 11/12/17 06:29 PM
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Thank you Navasot and that is what I did before I shot yesterday. The grouping was still the same. Appreciate the advice.

I did come here and ask questions and actually received non smart [censored] answers from several people. Also followed their advice. Thank you for trying to help Im sure I was mistaking your tone. Hard to tell through text.

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Oh yeah

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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956969 11/12/17 06:32 PM
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1000 Words Subtle HINT.

I've 100's of scopes and fail more than you could begin to fathom.

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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956970 11/12/17 06:33 PM
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Glass is ALWAYS suspect...until proven not to be.

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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956971 11/12/17 06:34 PM
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As a not so curious aside...I've seen NIB Vortex right outta da' box,be incapable of establishing or holding a 100yd zero,due mechanics.

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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956973 11/12/17 06:36 PM
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WTF is this "Hint" sh-- that dum nuts uses?

Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956974 11/12/17 06:39 PM
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Not everyone can take a hint.

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Re: AR-15 accuracy all over the place [Re: ejj005] #6956980 11/12/17 06:45 PM
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Im sure you are very smart...no friends but at least you are smart...

Man Im not saying the scope is not at fault. Im simply saying it was working before...I know it still needs to be checked. But when other people tell me they had the same issues with the same upper and I am at the end of my 30 day warranty. I am going to allow BCA to send me a new upper and hope for the best. Yes I will be testingthe scope on my other rifle that I know shoots. So thanks for all the good advice.

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Mailing parts around the Country,due to a POS scope doing what they tend to do...is pretty funny.

Bless your heart.

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