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#6947662 - 11/05/17 09:19 PM Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened.
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Sorry for the long read. First year my wife has hunted. She doesn’t care for guns so we got her a bow. For shooting only a couple months prior to opening bow season, she’s pretty darn good and picked up a lot faster than I did when I first started shooting. Anyway, her bow is well tuned and 35lbs not much I know but I figured the muzzy x3s would help with penetration at the lb. note that we don’t have a range finder. Friday night she shot at a doe 3 times and missed due to the fact her first pin is 15 yards, second is 20-25, and third is 30 yards. She is a bad judge at distances and I think her dad is too. Well yesterday morning she got a fourth shot off at the same doe and nailed her. Her and her dad claimed it looked like a good shot but a little high. Arrow sticking out she takes off. She was so excited at it being her first deer she convinced her dad to go find her 30 minutes later. I suggested an hour but she was to excited. Where she was standing to where first blood was roughly 25-30 yards. The first 10 yards was good blood for no exit whole. (Light red) some of it almost looked watery to me. Find the arrow. decent blood for another 5 yards. Then it just vanishes to pea sized drips every 5 yards. Then nothing after 30 yards of blood if that. She was running through stuff we had to get on our hands and knees to get through. We gave up. I take one of her other arrows and compare to broke arrow. 3 1/2 - 4 inches penetration. Wife says she was very slightly quartering towards her at 25 yards. We measured and marked trees for her “range finder”. Now I was thinking that maybe the arrow stopped after hitting bone? What are y’alls thoughts? I gave her advice on maybe try to get a quartering away shot for more penetration. Correct me if I’m wrong please. She’s so upset and I’m upset for her because I know what it’s like to loose a deer


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#6947668 - 11/05/17 09:24 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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She’s using 100gr muzzys. With beeman arrows. If that helps with thoughts

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#6947688 - 11/05/17 09:40 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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Unfortunate for her. However 35lbs us a bit light for draw weight hunting. Maybe 15 yards or less and avoiding the shoulder. Would need to be a good broadside, double lung shot to get enough penetration.
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#6947699 - 11/05/17 09:54 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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Ok thanks for response. I never thought to tell her that.

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#6947702 - 11/05/17 09:55 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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For that light poundage she will get much better penetration with a true cut on contact broadhead like Magnus Stinger 2 blade or G5 Montec. Like Passthru said keep the shots short range 15 20 yards max. I know a lady shooting 37lbs from an Infinite Edge using Easton arrows and Montechs that in her first 3 years killed 8 all inside 20 yards with a few pass through shots.

Sounds like she might have only gotten one lung, with either of the heads above I would expect a few more inches of penetration. I know several lad hunters that have gone to Easton FMJ 500 spine arrows with Magnus 2 blade 100 and 125 gr heads that are having success as well but are asp keeping shots inside 20 yards.

A dog probably could have found the deer for you if it is in a location tracking dogs are legal if she got one lung it can take them a while to die. Then again she might get a chance at the same doe if it didn't get into the lung.

Also a well tuned bow will get more penetration putting the full force of the arrow straight behind the broadhead.


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#6947705 - 11/05/17 09:59 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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3rivers archery sells weight tubes that could also increase arrow weight which will give an even more rainbow trajectory but increase penetration
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#6947709 - 11/05/17 10:07 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: kmon1]
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[quote=kmon1]For that light poundage she will get much better penetration with a true cut on contact broadhead like Magnus Stinger 2 blade or G5 Montec. Like Passthru said keep the shots short range 15 20 yards max. I know a lady shooting 37lbs from an Infinite Edge using Easton arrows and Montechs that in her first 3 years killed 8 all inside 20 yards with a few pass through shots.

Sounds like she might have only gotten one lung, with either of the heads above I would expect a few more inches of penetration. I know several lad hunters that have gone to Easton FMJ 500 spine arrows with Magnus 2 blade 100 and 125 gr heads that are having success as well but are asp keeping shots inside 20 yards.

A dog probably could have found the deer for you if it is in a location tracking dogs are legal if she got one lung it can take them a while to die. Then again she might get a chance at the same doe if it didn't get into the lung.

Also a well tuned bow will get more penetration putting the full force of the arrow straight behind the broadhead. [/quote this may be flying over my head but what do you mean putting full force of arrow straight behind broadheads?

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#6947712 - 11/05/17 10:08 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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Well I messed that up. What do you mean by putting full force behind broadheads?

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#6947713 - 11/05/17 10:08 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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These are some heavy arrows and a little higher poundage in this video but impressive penetration, notice they are using a rhinhart target as the backstop.

For the most penetration think heavy arrow with cut on contact 2 blade broadhead.

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#6947716 - 11/05/17 10:09 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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And San Augustine county. Illegal to track. I looked/ gave it the thought

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#6947719 - 11/05/17 10:14 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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I’ll look into the two blade broad head. She should shoot more than she does to get them muscles built up but she’s short on time. What’s the cutting width on those heads? I honestly think we will see her again. There was no bubbles in blood. It wasn’t a pinkish red it was just a bright light red. I’ll post a pic of it if I can on this iPhone when my wife gets home.

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#6947720 - 11/05/17 10:14 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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Originally Posted By: Cowboy9215
Well I messed that up. What do you mean by putting full force behind broadheads?


The better tuned a bow is the straighter the arrow flies. When an arrow is flying very straight all energy is directly behind the broadhead, also an arrow that is a little off straight flight creates drag on the shaft cutting down on penetration. Hope that makes sense.
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#6947722 - 11/05/17 10:17 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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Wow, thanks for that video. I will definitely check to see if my local bow store has them before this weekend.

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#6947726 - 11/05/17 10:19 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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The bow was bought brand new, paper tuned before leaving store. Think we bought the bow in June.


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#6947727 - 11/05/17 10:24 PM Re: Maybe I can get a better opinion on what happened. [Re: Cowboy9215]
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If papertuned with her shooting it should be good to go on that. Griz sticks are not in that many shops that I know of but doesn't hurt to check.

http://www.magnusbroadheads.com/categories/Stinger-Broadheads/

One of their 100 or 125gr 2 blade are a good way to go and though not as heavy as Grizzly Sticks and their broadheads. Easton FMJ might be the heaviest in many of the shops There is also a 75gr brass insert for them that ups weight for better penetration.


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