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#6942098 - 11/01/17 10:50 AM Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes
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Why do people always use the excuse that they are killing hogs because of all the damage they do to farmers and why do people always use the coyotes eat fawn and calves to justify their killing of them? I kill both of them because it is fun. I like calling in coyotes and shooting them in the face. I love shooting hogs and hearing them squeal in agony. I know lots of people kill both for specific reasons but it seems these are the main arguments even for people not killing them in these situations. Is it to make them feel better about killing? Is it a form of defense against people against killing either of these animals? Ill say I've used both these reasons in defense in the past even know I'm hunting on Ft Hood mostly where there is no agriculture. The truth is I just enjoy killing hogs, every single one I can. During winter months I gut them and give them to soldiers but in the hot months I love em lay. As far as coyotes we have way too many so I shoot them for fun too and its good target practice.
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#6942123 - 11/01/17 11:01 AM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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It may be a society thing on how people look at you I guess? So you can say a reason without looking like a stone cold killer to them I guess, but I really donít know. While I do think itís fun I guess if they didnít eat all of my corn and tearing up feeders and there werenít so many of them I guess I wouldnít mind them. Similar to coons With coons I donít care if they are just eating under the feeder every once in a while. Itís when they show up in groups of at least 5 and climb on it and throw all of the corn out is when I shoot them.


Edited by Aggieman775 (11/01/17 11:08 AM)
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#6942132 - 11/01/17 11:08 AM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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lol made me giggle most just not as honest

BUT

if you own livestock/hay property you will know the struggle with both these is very real... I absolutely despise wild hogs... i center punch everyone that comes to my bow stand so i can get a clean pass through and get my arrow back... then wave by to them
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#6942147 - 11/01/17 11:22 AM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: Navasot]
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Originally Posted By: Navasot
lol made me giggle most just not as honest

BUT

if you own livestock/hay property you will know the struggle with both these is very real... I absolutely despise wild hogs... i center punch everyone that comes to my bow stand so i can get a clean pass through and get my arrow back... then wave by to them
I completely agree the struggle is real when they are actually effecting your property or livelihood but I know many that kill them for neither of those reasons.
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#6942154 - 11/01/17 11:24 AM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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I guess I just don't like the blanket statements or social media posts. People will post a picture of a coyote eating a fawn or something and then say "This is why predator hunters do what we do" No I do what I do for my own reasons and mostly because its fun.
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#6942167 - 11/01/17 11:33 AM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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There doesn't have to be a single reason.
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#6942220 - 11/01/17 12:11 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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They have destroyed a lot of wheat and coastal fields at the ranch. I don't use that as my excuse though. I just enjoy shooting them and hearing them squeal. I love calling predators and shooting them also. I don't care if they kill a few fawns.
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#6942250 - 11/01/17 12:40 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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The issue of worrying about coyotes killing fawns is pretty silly in my book. Coyotes and deer have always lived together. That is just part of the natural cycle. It isn't like the deer population is in decline. In fact, it is still growing here in Texas.

However, I take out whatever the landowner says needs to go. For that, I get the opportunity to hunt, which I enjoy. I have landowners who only want me to take hogs. One wants me to shoot hogs and predators, but NOT mountain lions, not that I see a lot of them, LOL.
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#6942303 - 11/01/17 01:07 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: Double Naught Spy]
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Originally Posted By: Double Naught Spy
The issue of worrying about coyotes killing fawns is pretty silly in my book. Coyotes and deer have always lived together. That is just part of the natural cycle. It isn't like the deer population is in decline. In fact, it is still growing here in Texas.

However, I take out whatever the landowner says needs to go. For that, I get the opportunity to hunt, which I enjoy. I have landowners who only want me to take hogs. One wants me to shoot hogs and predators, but NOT mountain lions, not that I see a lot of them, LOL.

By the way does that look like a tail? roflmao

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#6942332 - 11/01/17 01:25 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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It is wrong to kill for the fun of it. Sorry man but that's the way I was raised back in the day. It is what separates us from the animal. I kill for food and out of necessity. I hunt for the sport. When I was a young man my mentor would take me hunting coons with his hounds. The dogs would track the coon to a tree where we tied the dogs off before shaking the coon out of the tree. We would let 5 or 10 minutes pass before we released the dogs again. We might do this 2 or 3 times before leaving the coon for next weeks race. My point is, I not being a religious man do think that with our dominion over the animals, also comes with a certain amount of restraint required when making life and death decisions over the animals.


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#6942337 - 11/01/17 01:27 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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I shot them for the reasons stated, never felt guilty, some counties the deer population is far behind others, so any fawn saved is a good thing. like parts of the anatomy every one has their own reasons
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#6942430 - 11/01/17 02:28 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: HornSlayer]
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Originally Posted By: HornSlayer
It is wrong to kill for the fun of it. Sorry man but that's the way I was raised back in the day. It is what separates us from the animal. I kill for food and out of necessity. I hunt for the sport. When I was a young man my mentor would take me hunting coons with his hounds. The dogs would track the coon to a tree where we tied the dogs off before shaking the coon out of the tree. We would let 5 or 10 minutes pass before we released the dogs again. We might do this 2 or 3 times before leaving the coon for next weeks race. My point is, I not being a religious man do think that with our dominion over the animals, also comes with a certain amount of restraint required when making life and death decisions over the animals.


I am a religious man and you are entitled to your opinion for sure. But those coons you speak of kill for fun. Dogs kill for fun. Lots of animals kill for fun. I rank hogs on the same level of worthlessness as fire ants. Kill them all.
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#6942559 - 11/01/17 03:52 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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I wish I could record a hog squealing in agony and make it my alarm clock sound
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#6942608 - 11/01/17 04:39 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: SapperTitan]
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#6942618 - 11/01/17 04:55 PM Re: Question pertaining to hogs and coyotes [Re: HornSlayer]
Navasot Offline
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Registered: 09/22/11
Posts: 27738
Loc: Normangee/Navasota TX
Originally Posted By: HornSlayer
It is wrong to kill for the fun of it. Sorry man but that's the way I was raised back in the day. It is what separates us from the animal. I kill for food and out of necessity. I hunt for the sport. When I was a young man my mentor would take me hunting coons with his hounds. The dogs would track the coon to a tree where we tied the dogs off before shaking the coon out of the tree. We would let 5 or 10 minutes pass before we released the dogs again. We might do this 2 or 3 times before leaving the coon for next weeks race. My point is, I not being a religious man do think that with our dominion over the animals, also comes with a certain amount of restraint required when making life and death decisions over the animals.


I was to but when we are talking about pest animals pigs being THE worst one in Texas you don't need a reason... you see one you shoot it.... if its a hunt have fun doing it... if your not having fun I don't care you still shoot it... anyone I let come to shoot deer knows if they pass a hog they wont be coming back lol.
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